21 minutes ago, edgeofnik said:

I have no issue with Mrs Martinez but don't make it sound like that stereotyped character - completely with an insulting accent -  watched Traci and Ashley grow up. And Billy wasn't around post-Mamie - he was in boarding school - an integral part of Billy/Jill relationship. For writers who supposedly know Y&R, they are making many unforced mistakes since the first episode. 

 

 

 

Maybe they trying to write the Barbers out. Because  Mrs. Martinez having fake memories of something she wasn't present for when the Abbots was young children.

Edited December 24, 20168 yr by MoTheGreat

LMAO y'all are reaching way TOO much.

Was Mrs. Martinez was around when Billy came back from Boarding School? I don't remember her being there.

Mrs Martinez was definitely there when David Tom's Billy was around but she was mainly offscreen.

2 hours ago, Fevuh said:

I have trouble remembering but Drucilla and Olivia were -- were they Mamie's daughters or were they nieces? 

 

Liv & Dru are Mamie's nieces.

 

Their parents (who are both still alive) are Walter & Lillie Belle.

Lillie Belle and Mamie are sisters, correct?

Yes. Actress Norma Donaldson who played Lillie Belle passed away in 94 (She was previously on GH as Simone's  mother ) .  Robin Braxton was the last to appear  in 94.

2 hours ago, MoTheGreat said:

 

Maybe they trying to write the Barbers out. Because  Mrs. Martinez having fake memories of something she wasn't present for when the Abbots was young children.

 

????????

I think they meant trying to write the family out of Y&R's history. I would hope not, but I wouldn't be surprised. 

Could Mrs. Martinez have been the cook when Mamie was the head of the household help?

I don't know why, but it's always bothered me that they never cared to come up with a first name for Mrs. Martinez.....I guess because she's basically been played by different actresses on and off for over 20 years, and I know she was never suppose to be as close with the Abbotts as Mamie was, but now I feel the longevity of her working in that household would be enough to be granted a first name....i guess maybe if the show was ever interested in creating a Hispanic family, which unfortunately was dropped too soon with Estella and Rafe.

6 hours ago, slick jones said:

Mrs.Martinez has been referred to for years.   She has been on  back in the early 2000s portrayed by actress  Linda Dangcil.

 

Now that they have been focusing on family, Margarita Franco started appearing. 

 

I hope they bring in a family member for the younger set. At least it would give a little variety to the show.

Yes! This show has become too inbred. They need an outsider. Maybe someone for Abby or Summer.

Let me understand this.  Ms. Martinez has a line or two about watching the kids grow up, the writers are angling to wipe the Barbers off the canvas?  Really?

 

I don't get it.

7 minutes ago, GMac said:

Let me understand this.  Ms. Martinez has a line or two about watching the kids grow up, the writers are angling to wipe the Barbers off the canvas?  Really?

 

I don't get it.

 

Other than Lily, there are no Barbers on the canvas. I imagine the point being made was wondering if these retcon memories mean that the character of Mamie is now forgotten, similar to how characters like Miguel are long forgotten by the show. 

Mamie was mentioned in Sally's first episode at the Abbott breakfast.

Yeah, I still don't get it.  A couple throw away lines are not the beginnings of an effort to remove the Barbers from the shows history, regardless if Lily is the only blood of theirs left.  

 

 

Edited December 25, 20168 yr by GMac