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Y&R: April 2014 Discussion

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Steve kent is Jill's boss and keeps her employed. Victoria trashed Steve on a major personal level and he is head of SONY. People don't know that when Maria was EP she tried to get Victoria back and was flat out told out of the question. The bells have very little power as we saw ousting for Jill which in a way has resulted in higher ratings. Jill doesn't know Victoria at all and when she was asked she kind of gave the answer no comment or I am not getting involved. Victoria called Steve a racist pig the head of freaking SONY u think she will be back. That's why they always tell u when u leave a job no matter of u hate the job or bosses u leave on good terms u never burn a bridge isn't that common sense? I recently had someone i know get fired I worked with and he went on Facebook bashing the management and the company. Never a good idea. Again persona non grata. My question to you is would you rehire someone who called u and your company racists and continually bashes your show, network and all affiliated companies? I doubt anyone would entertain that. She dug her own grave and now she's financially miserable. That's her own fault.

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And I disagree that there's "only so much you can do" with the material. But I do agree if there's just nothing there at all, what more can you really do?

If Emmy winning actors like Darnell Williams & Maura West can't sell their Y&R pairings & stories there's only so much the actors can do with the material. Tonya Williams & Tricia Cast have done whatever Y&R have asked them (through several regime changes) but their performances haven't merited better stories or frontburner romances. Who honestly believes Tricia Cast could have better sold the Ronan story or that Tyra was the next big thing for the black storylines because Tonya Williams repeatedly said it between cups of coffee at Crimson Lights?

I never said anything about Kristoff. I still say Neil has been a waste for years now but to each their own. What purpose has he served? What has he done? That awful NOTMalcolm/Sophia story? Which was on if you were lucky a few times a month, if that? I stand by what I said. And I like the character of Neil but there's no investment in him that I can see and I feel bad for Kristoff. He's all but admitted his character is useless without Victoria and Drucilla. And that's not how it should be.

Neil has been a waste for years because Neil is nothing more than a token. NO actor (no matter how good) can give themselves airtime & good writing UNLESS they're writing themselves. All actors can do is interpret what they're given & when they receive less than half the airtime of newer actors & are stuck in the same set they've been in for almost 25 years there's a problem.

But that isn't Kristoff's fault.

He's not the most exciting actor (he's no Darnell Williams or Justin Deas) nor would he win emmys or oscars if he were to try his hand at outside work BUT he is a solid actor who has been exceedingly loyal to The Bells & tried his best to sell everything the various writing regimes have given Neil. When the writing is bad though, nobody blames the white actors for their inability to overcome the horrible material so why should the black actors who are working with less resources (to put it mildly) expected to be miracle workers? White actors certainly get criticized for their tics (Braeden's mumbling, LeBlanc's scenery chewing, Cooper's acting with her hands) but those same actors are excused by most fans when the writing is bad.

Kristoff has repeatedly stated Vicki & Dru are integral parts of Neil's story but he's also acknowledged that he's done the best he can in her absence. However he can't outright blame the show & the writers for the lack of investment in Neil & the other Black characters (look how severely he was punished the last time he even mildly criticized the writing). After almost 25 years Neil could & should be an integral force on Y&R but he's stuck in a love triangle with his son & an actress more than 20 years his junior who he has no chemistry with all because they're Black.

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Steve kent is Jill's boss and keeps her employed. Victoria trashed Steve on a major personal level and he is head of SONY. People don't know that when Maria was EP she tried to get Victoria back and was flat out told out of the question. The bells have very little power as we saw ousting for Jill which in a way has resulted in higher ratings. Jill doesn't Victoria st all and when she was asked she kind of gave the answer no comment or I am not getting involved. Victoria called Steve a racist pig the head of freaking SONY u think she will be back. That's why they always tell u when u leave a job no matter of u hate the job or bosses u leave on good terms u never burn a bridge isn't that common sense?

Please its all about ratings & monies. If JFP could sell that VR returning would make YR great profit, Steve Kent wouldnt stand in the way

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Khalil just has this uppity air about her and I imagine (am I wrong?) that she's kind of a bitch in real life. And it rubs off on her character.

All she knows how to play is stuck up valley girl. Did you see her attempt at voice acting?

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Oh I can't wait to watch that clip. And that is all she's good at playing. The Valley Girl. Which is the last thing Drucilla's daughter should be. IMHO.

I see the points about Neil. I did say if the writing just isn't there, I guess there just isn't much more that can be do. They can only play it so much and the writing hasn't been there for Neil or any of them, really.

And why is Robert Adamson completely wasted? They don't know what to do with Noah at all. Maybe they, you know, shouldn't have aged him?

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All she knows how to play is stuck up valley girl. Did you see her attempt at voice acting?

It's like watching Lily. Seriously, that blonde girl was so Lily.

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David Tom works sooo much better away from Heinle. The sooner Villy comes to an official end, the better.

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Here Here.

The one story that they SHOULD be telling for Neil and we all know that Kristoff St John could sell the heck out of it Neil starting his own cosmetics company and struggling to make it work. But TPTB (I am convinced it is Sony) refuse to put the character Neil and the Winters family on par with their counterparts.Even the billionaire Devon just owns the GCAC. Now while I see nothing wrong with GCAC considering it is better than Billy owning a restaurant and Nick owning a club, those in charge have made a point of having other characters whom they want us to perceive as above him to denigrate it (Victor, Colin, Cane). Times like that, I would love to see Devon and Neil take Chancellor from Victor. But no, they have Colin and Cane involved with taking Chancellor, as if either is anything other than a mobster, liar, and a con.

I thought they would have done a jewelry business with Lily taking the lead but we know what Lily is all about.

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No, Cassie is still older, but Rob Adamson is older than Camryn Grimes

I don't see how Camryn can be Cassie again or her twin sister.

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I don't see how Camryn can be Cassie again or her twin sister.

You may have to break out the Windex with Jean Passanante as HW. She was co-head writer (with Hogan Sheffer) during the Rose/Lily years on ATWT.

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LOL. If Jack Deveraux can donate organs and come back from the dead and if Erica Kane's aborted fetus turns up alive ... they'll make her Cassie if she wants to stick around, or some twin that Sharon forgot about. It's as simple as that. You're thinking of the old Y&R, before MAB brought back Phillip from the dead. I wouldn't at all be surprised if Cassie is alive. Maybe Ian snatched her and brainwashed her? IDK. LOL. I'm just grasping like Jean will.

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