How sad that a thread celebrating Days very well deserved win has turned into the usual RC drivel. This is a great way to start the year going into their 50th anniversary. Hope its a sign of more honors to come their way

Edited February 2, 201411 yr by Cheap21

How sad that a thread celebrating Days very well deserved win has turned into the usual RC drivel. This is a great way to start the year going into their 50th anniversary. Hope its a sign of more honors to come their way

I hope Days wins Best Writing and Best Drama at the Emmys

The show doesnt win the WGA award, The writers do. Tom Casiello just told me that

Well. I stand corrected then. And do they ensure that the scenes put forth are from the writers submitted only? Or do they submit any scene?

He also fired the GH composers, who are now at Y&R

How does a headwriter get the power to fire a composer?

Well. I stand corrected then. And do they ensure that the scenes put forth are from the writers submitted only? Or do they submit any scene?

The writing team wins sans any member who has taken Fi-core status with the WGA. So that is why Gary was not nominated with DOOL

How does a headwriter get the power to fire a composer?

Frank fired the old GH composer

The writing team wins sans any member who has taken Fi-core status with the WGA. So that is why Gary was not nominated with DOOL

Frank fired the old GH composer

So now I am back to my original opinion. They say that it's just the union writers for their work but the only way to ensure this is to let each writer submit their own scenes. Otherwise, it's the show winning as a whole but giving the award to the writers as lip service to none union writers not winning. But in reality, none union writers are contributing and being acknowledged by proxy. Sorry no. I get Ron's point.

Can we instead congratulate Days for winning

Ron should know Gary didn't "steal" his job - they both had a long, long history at OLTL going back many years, and I believe he once worked under Gary himself. Tomlin took the hit and wrote the show for a couple of months. I had heard Frons had considered having RC replaced at that time, but I've never heard that GT jockeyed for the position. Plus his team is full of Ron's ex-OLTL writers. It's so ludicrous.

I'm not a fan of RC, but let's get this straight: GT going fi-core was about his own self interest, as it always is for writers who go fi-core. The WGA couldn't exist if the majority of its members were like Gary and Josh Griffith who abandoned their union so they could continue drawing a salary while everyone else was on strike for things Gary and Josh (and the other scabs) would benefit from post-strike, even though they were no longer members in good standing in the union. They weren't "selflessly" keeping these shows going so their "brothers and sisters" in the union would have shows to come back to. They decided they wanted to keep writing and getting a paycheck, it's that simple. Fortunately most of the daytime writing community stuck together because that's the only way writers get anything out of production companies and networks who don't want to give a dime more than they have to, even when their companies and networks are raking in profits. Writers like GT and JG who go fi-core undermine their own union, the very union that through the years has negotiated increases in their pension fund and healthcare benefits that they enjoy today, and will continue to enjoy for many years. What Ron tweeted was out of line, but GT doesn't get a pass for going fi-core. I'm happy for the DAYS writing team, but I'm just as happy GT doesn't get one of those weird looking WGA trophies, since he essentially screwed other writers when he went fi-core.

I think maybe Ron would have had a somewhat stronger case (but still should have shut the F up) if his target wasn't Tomlin. It's not story arcs being judged here, it's scripts. And even if Days didn't submit any of Jeanne Marie Ford's scripts, Fran Myers polished all of them.

But his outrage over these evil job stealers? Please! He happily gave former OLTL producer Suzanne Flynn a spot on his GH scriptwriting team. Now who did ABC openly say was helping write its soaps during the strike? Oh yeah, the producers!

Edited February 2, 201411 yr by LeClerc

I think people are being blinded by dislike for Ron here. I get his frustration.

How can DAYS win an award for best writing by a union member when a non-union member wrote the material? His material is winning, whether he gets the award or not.

If I had gone on strike and not received pay for 3 months and then a writer who said, "Screw the union, I want my money" and benefitted from the strike anyway won an award, I'd be pissed too.

My opinions on Ron, Gary, DAYS, and GH notwithstanding, I get it.

So do I as a writer. I don't consider myself a union man, but I definitely supported the WGA in the strike. Royalties and payment were changing so much because the landscape of TV was changing.

I do think Carlivati and his crew from GH should have gotten this award, but kudos to Days. A lot of GH's really good stuff like the Robin/Emma "Mommy's here" scene occurred after September 30. Some of the stuff that got Days all that attention and kudos aired before this.

I know I'm going against popular opinion here, but just my two cents.

I'm not a fan of RC, but let's get this straight: GT going fi-core was about his own self interest, as it always is for writers who go fi-core.

What's your point? Someone had to write the show. Tomlin's been around a long time and he's worn a lot of different hats, not just HW. I don't support scabs, but I understood that someone had to do the job and it might as well have been someone who's had a long career that is not limited to needing to be in the Guild. I frankly didn't think his writing during the strike was very good but it got the show over the hump, and that's all it had to do.

Edited February 2, 201411 yr by Vee

So now I am back to my original opinion. They say that it's just the union writers for their work but the only way to ensure this is to let each writer submit their own scenes. Otherwise, it's the show winning as a whole but giving the award to the writers as lip service to none union writers not winning. But in reality, none union writers are contributing and being acknowledged by proxy. Sorry no. I get Ron's point.

If Ron feels that strongly he should have refused to let GH be nominated unless DAYS and Y&R were not allowed to participate.

Instead he throws a fit after the fact, because the writers' guild basically told him that yes, his [!@#$%^&*] stinks.

He's a hypocrite.

I do think Carlivati and his crew from GH should have gotten this award, but kudos to Days.

Because they were the better writers? Or because the other nominees should be disqualified?

This is my problem with unions in general. They are all about protecting the majority and preserving the union's power and leverage. That is their mandate, and i get it. But They promote the opposite of excellence.

If Ron feels that strongly he should have refused to let GH be nominated unless DAYS and Y&R were not allowed to participate.

Instead he throws a fit after the fact, because the writers' guild basically told him that yes, his [!@#$%^&*] stinks.

He's a hypocrite.

Exactly! Why throw your hat into the ring for something to which you are opposed?

moRon's tweet reeks of "I should have won the award because GH is better than Days"!

B&B doesn't have a scab head writer, like DAYS and Y&R (did with JG). Brad Bell never went fi-core. He's in good standing with the Guild. I also doubt that B&B's decision not to put itself up for nomination has anything to do with any scab writers on its staff (not sure who those writers are, by the way).

Officially on the current staff only Jack Smith.

Shannon Bradly and Adam Dusevoir were probably not yet in the WGA when the strike took place but they alongside Theresa Zimmerman wrote the scripts - allegedly. On outlines of Kay Alden.