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Daniel Covin

All My Children! Eric, Allison and I at last nights cast and crew party. Allison was our casting director! It's so cool to think how life has changed since my final audition in her casting office. Dream!

So this is the idiot that cast him to "act" on the reboot.

The pic is from some soap reunion party thing. http://stevenbergmanphotography.com/ximagi/search.php?assignment_id=2076#page=0&view=gallery&key=

People also act like ABC was entitled to keep two shows that were costing them money. PP is no better than ABC n matter how much some want to pretend they are

Matter of opinion.

PP is better mostly because PP actually gave a damn.

People want it both ways. They want to gush over how ABC must get the shows back so "Cartini" can do them right, yet they want to blame PP for any problem these shows had.

i don't believe the PP detractors here, dragonflies and myself have been gushing over wanting Cartini to get control over the shows

i don't believe the PP detractors here, dragonflies and myself have been gushing over wanting Cartini to get control over the shows

But you aren't praising ABC in this matter. Those are the people I am talking about. There's this push out there to get AMC and OLTL under ABC's control because the only time that some people would care is if Ron and Frank are in change.

People also act like ABC was entitled to keep two shows that were costing them money.

Uh, what board are you posting on?

I don't have to support every aspect of a lawsuit or of a business's management to support the programs they put out, which I thought were damn good, separate from the companies and their feuding. If you have to have every TV show you enjoy pass a litmus test for BTS behavior, you're not going to have any left to watch, soaps included.

Edited March 4, 201411 yr by Vee

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In primetime TV, the cancellation can be pretty cold. I've heard stories about actors who never got contacted by producers, only a phone call from the director or head writer. Those shows however, usually were not shows that were on the air for 40, 50, 60+ years with generations of viewers/fans. There was an obvious disconnect between how things are done in soapland vs. primetime TV and then the tech world (where changes happen at a fairly rapid clip--e.g. the next time you log onto Yahoo! Facebook, Twitter or Gmail and notice a bunch of changes without your approval, you see what I mean).

PP was kind of treating the TOLN Soaps like a BETA testing, making rapid changes and course corrections along the way with little to no explanation. Unfortunately they didn't seem to realize that they weren't working with IT, software engineers who are used to working that way but actors who were stepping into the unknown and probably expected proper communication and more clarification.

Many of the daytime dramas have been written poorly for years but they run like a machine. Everyone knows what's what, things fall into place and it's like painting by numbers--there are few to no surprises. the TOLN shows were exploring more daring themes creatively but production must have seemed like a mess to the actors who were used to being part of a well oiled machine.

Anyway you slice it, though, I can't justify PP's lack of communication with their actors.

Vincent was asked on Twitter if he submitted scenes, this was his response

Vincent Irizarry (@VincentIrizarry) tweeted at 5:32 PM on Thu, Mar 06, 2014: @xxxxxxxxxxxx No,I didn't,like most of the actors on the show.The way it ended didn't leave many of us inspired to do so. (https://twitter.com/VincentIrizarry/status/441702863480172544)

DAAAAAMN, for a hot second I thought Vin said he didn't like most of the actors on the show.

Vincent was asked on Twitter if he submitted scenes, this was his response

Vincent Irizarry (@VincentIrizarry) tweeted at 5:32 PM on Thu, Mar 06, 2014: @xxxxxxxxxxxx No,I didn't,like most of the actors on the show.The way it ended didn't leave many of us inspired to do so. (https://twitter.com/VincentIrizarry/status/441702863480172544)

Yeah he said a while back he wasn't going to submit scenes. I do understand being disappointed that a job ended, but given that this was such a new venture, I'm really not sure why he, Debbi and some of the actors seem so bitter about it because as others have pointed out, actors get fired in heartless ways all the time, and from what we can tell, PP doesn't seem to be any better or worse than anyone else out there. Yet Debbi, Vincent, Sal, Lindsay and I think someone said Darnell as well all opted to skip the Emmy pre-nom process. Obviously it's their right to refuse to participate, but I'm not sure why anyone would think NOT submitting because you're mad at PP and upset the show was canceled again is a great idea. Seems like a 'cut off the nose to spite the face' kind of thing.

Yeah he said a while back he wasn't going to submit scenes. I do understand being disappointed that a job ended, but given that this was such a new venture, I'm really not sure why he, Debbi and some of the actors seem so bitter about it because as others have pointed out, actors get fired in heartless ways all the time, and from what we can tell, PP doesn't seem to be any better or worse than anyone else out there. Yet Debbi, Vincent, Sal, Lindsay and I think someone said Darnell as well all opted to skip the Emmy pre-nom process. Obviously it's their right to refuse to participate, but I'm not sure why anyone would think NOT submitting because you're mad at PP and upset the show was canceled again is a great idea. Seems like a 'cut off the nose to spite the face' kind of thing.

it's a shame, consider they were some of the best parts of AMC 2.0, I hate to say this but by doing this they have proven the haters of the online versions right

DAAAAAMN, for a hot second I thought Vin said he didn't like most of the actors on the show.

LOL! Me too!

The actors have to pay to submit their name during the Emmy process. Also if they do get nominated, since they don't have support from a soap everything would be out of pocket. Some may not think it is worth the money.

Thats right the academy changed its policy a way back and now all comes out of pocket for the actor