Members Y&RWorldTurner Posted January 13, 2013 Members Share Posted January 13, 2013 I think Laurie's second Emmy came from the episodes where Fisher beat Jackie up. At the time, Roseanne's Emmy win for Outstanding Lead Actress in a Comedy Series was considered one of the most controversial ones in Hollywood, as she was so anti-establishment, she didn't even show up to accept it (claiming she was sick). I think Roseanne (the show) hit its absolute peak in quality in season 5 - it was just a superb mixture of the show's grounded socially relevant content and the somewhat outrageous nature that consumed the latter seasons. That season just holds up so well 20 years later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MissLlanviewPA Posted January 13, 2013 Author Members Share Posted January 13, 2013 The show itself was never nominated for Outstanding Comedy Series, was it? It got a Peabody, though, which is definitely an honor. Seasons 4 and 5 are my favorites for sure. It just got more and more over the top--and unfortunately, Laurie probably was the worst offender. I know she actually met up with Don Knotts at one point to take pointers from him in characterization, but she took it TOO far later on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bright Eyes Posted January 13, 2013 Members Share Posted January 13, 2013 Roseanne is my favourite sitcom of all time. I even like/tolerate the last season except for that horrible train episode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Y&RWorldTurner Posted January 13, 2013 Members Share Posted January 13, 2013 It wasn't even nominated, many thought this was because of Roseanne's (and Tom Arnold's) bad reputation in Hollywood. The show was groundbreaking for many reasons, it's a shame that some of Roseanne Barr's personal antics at the time took away from some of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MissLlanviewPA Posted January 13, 2013 Author Members Share Posted January 13, 2013 We should probably revive the old Roseanne thread in Primetime Oxides, or even start a new one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted January 13, 2013 Members Share Posted January 13, 2013 I hated what they did with Jackie in the last 2-3-4 years of the show, just too relentlessly bitter, no layers, nothing. I gave up watching in part because of that, as she had been one of my favorite characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MissLlanviewPA Posted January 13, 2013 Author Members Share Posted January 13, 2013 Not only that, but when she wasn't bitter or disappointed, she took hamming it up to eleven and beyond. She didn't need to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Y&RWorldTurner Posted January 13, 2013 Members Share Posted January 13, 2013 I hated that they made Jackie into a buffoon from season 7 onward. She was always a bit out there, but they made her too stupid and outrageous in the latter years. Coincidentally, the decline of Jackie's characterization coincided with the decline of the show from season 7 onward, IMO. Season 6 was the last overall GREAT season of the show, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dragonflies Posted January 13, 2013 Members Share Posted January 13, 2013 I did too she became so utterly unlikeable as did Roseanne, I don't blame Dan for cheating on Roseanne. I don't know if it's a UO but Dan & Jackie had some wicked hot chemistry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mathewson Posted January 14, 2013 Members Share Posted January 14, 2013 I never got the appeal of Family Matters, Full House, or any of those other sitcoms. Lori Loughlin and John Stamos were the only actors I ever liked on Full House. I also never got the appeal of Catherine Hicks. Not even on Ryan's Hope, which my mom used to make me watch with her. Speaking of unpopular opinions there, I LOVED Kathleen Tolan!! She was so bad that she was good. I loved her frozen face, her scowl, and her stuttering. I don't know why so many people hated her. Jensen Ackles is hot, but I find him smarmy and smug onscreen on Supernatural even when his character isn't being an obnoxious !@#$%^&*]. He's a good actor but he's way too smarmy most of the time. I find Kyra Sedgwick grating. I can't get past that voice of hers. Snookie on Jersey Shore is way too trashy. Does she do anything other than get drunk all the time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members VirginiaHamilton Posted January 15, 2013 Members Share Posted January 15, 2013 I considered Carrie screwed up in a damaged way when it became clear to me (around Season 2) that she lived, breathed, and shat Big, even though he treated her like the scum beneath his shoe. Don't get me wrong, their imbalanced relationshit made for good TV for me, but I came to the conclusion about Carrie when she kept on trying to find ways to get him to commit to her (or hell, claim her as his forever love - all the more reason why I thought their ending sucked). Glad to know, though, that I'm not the only one who found Aiden boring as hell. Granted, Carrie did treat him like sh!t, but I always got that love-the-one-you're-with vibe throughout their run. Another SATC UO: I liked Trey McDougal and do believe that he tried his best to be a good husband to Charlotte. While he was terrible in bed and couldn't remove his mouth from his mother's teat, I thought he was patient in the face of Charlotte's unrealistic expectations about marriage. I would've liked to have seen him just one last time after they ended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ryan Chamberlain Posted January 16, 2013 Members Share Posted January 16, 2013 I've hated almost every TV show that has come out in the past 10 years. 2002 was the last good year for primetime TV. IMO. The ones I didn't hate like Life on Mars for a drama. And, Better With You as a sitcom. Got cancelled after one season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JackPeyton Posted January 16, 2013 Members Share Posted January 16, 2013 RE SATC, i love that the show i loved that the writers allowed the audience to hate and judge carrie, esp during her affair with Big. They could have made it grand and romantic, but they kept it seedy and dirty. She knew it was wrong, she didnt care. Thats rarely done. Shows seem obsessed with making the leads bad decisions OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members YRBB Posted January 16, 2013 Members Share Posted January 16, 2013 Yes, yes, yes! Exactly my thoughts! The fact that they allowed her to make the mistake and didn't try to gloss over it and prop her up was absolutely terrific writing; in the end, she was a woman who knew what she wanted and went for it, consequences be damned. I don't know about Carrie being damaged, per se; I think, ultimately the problem was that what she wanted was Big and nothing would change that. That's why she couldn't marry, that's why she cheated and pushed Aidan away--Big was the one. And I cannot possibly agree with Aiden being boring lol But even if we do say that her quirkiness/fun was played down and damage played up, I see that as a logical consequence of the show entering a fourth/fifth season... there had to be a reason why she continued to be single, right? Besides, the show became much more serialized and serious. Loved Miranda's evolution, at least up until Season 6 (Movie 1 was tolerable but Movie 2 was horrific in regards to Miranda... well, and everything else). All the ladies evolved and changed; great character writing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members VirginiaHamilton Posted January 16, 2013 Members Share Posted January 16, 2013 As far as I'm concerned, those movies don't exist in the SATC universe in my mind. Ditto for whatever they're trying to do on the CW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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