I think Brenda was a great Ashley, but I still prefer Eileen.  But that was a great scene, and it reminds me how much the staging and music were instrumental in Y&R.  The classic character in the foreground (Ashley) with another character looking on in the background (Jill) as the scene fades out.  They always went for the drama, even if it seemed low key.  Simmering until it boiled over, then back to simmering.

2 minutes ago, titan1978 said:

I think Brenda was a great Ashley, but I still prefer Eileen.  But that was a great scene, and it reminds me how much the staging and music were instrumental in Y&R.  The classic character in the foreground (Ashley) with another character looking on in the background (Jill) as the scene fades out.  They always went for the drama, even if it seemed low key.  Simmering until it boiled over, then back to simmering.

Yep, the staging was so cinematic. Very old school Hollywood. Now the show is so flat, both literally and figuratively. 

This is another one that used to be up a few years ago and I don't think it is now. Jill, Dina, John, etc.

 

 

20 hours ago, YRfan23 said:

Great scene from Brenda Epperson's second to last episode as Ashley, when she has a mental breakdown over being deceived by Rick and Blade! 

 

Thanks @YRfan23! I'm traveling this week but had to make time to watch this. I'm jumping ahead a bit since I'm currently watching early '93  but everyone's comments made it sound so good - and I'm worried the vid will disappear as it's not unlisted.

 

BE is amazing here! To me, she is the definitive Ashley, as she could portray a wider range of emotions than ED. This is the first time I've seen her play "disturbed Ashley" and she nailed it! Too bad she left at this point. How much time elapsed before Shari Shattuck took over?

 

Comparing what I'm watching now - '93- to this scene - I noticed changes in the production - softer lighting, different camera angles... not necessarily bad, just different.

32 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

This is another one that used to be up a few years ago and I don't think it is now. Jill, Dina, John, etc.

 

 

Yikes at Brenda’s hair and makeup in that scene. Was Jill supposed to be recovering from illness there? Maybe it’s just the video transfer, but Marla looks flawless.

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33 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

This is another one that used to be up a few years ago and I don't think it is now. Jill, Dina, John, etc.

 

 

Thanks!!!   I actually was hoping this scene would pop up again!

12 minutes ago, yrfan1983 said:

Thanks @YRfan23! I'm traveling this week but had to make time to watch this. I'm jumping ahead a bit since I'm currently watching early '93  but everyone's comments made it sound so good - and I'm worried the vid will disappear as it's not unlisted.

 

BE is amazing here! To me, she is the definitive Ashley, as she could portray a wider range of emotions than ED. This is the first time I've seen her play "disturbed Ashley" and she nailed it! Too bad she left at this point. How much time elapsed before Shari Shattuck took over?

 

Comparing what I'm watching now - '93- to this scene - I noticed changes in the production - softer lighting, different camera angles... not necessarily bad, just different.

No problem!!  and I agree it’s good to save this one now! It doesn’t exactly say “Y&R” In the tittle but u never know anyways..

 

Brenda’s last day was 12/21/95 and I think Shari debuted about 3 months later...I think 3/11/96 was her first airdate!

 

i think by the end of 1993 they started making the production more “cinematic” slightly different lighting/camera angles and different music being used....I guess they were trying to go for a more “prime time” look.

27 minutes ago, Faulkner said:

Yikes at Brenda’s hair and makeup in that scene. Was Jill supposed to be recovering from illness there? Maybe it’s just the video transfer, but Marla looks flawless.

 

I think this is not long after Jill's miscarriage, but yes, it's a very rough look. I wonder if this is one of the reasons Brenda (presumably) started having more voice in her hair and makeup and wardrobe.

 

Marla Adams is always such a pleasure to watch as Dina. I've never really understood why she was so rarely used for so many years...

28 minutes ago, YRfan23 said:

Thanks!!!   I actually was hoping this scene would pop up again!

No problem!!  and I agree it’s good to save this one now! It doesn’t exactly say “Y&R” In the tittle but u never know anyways..

 

Brenda’s last day was 12/21/95 and I think Shari debuted about 3 months later...I think 3/11/96 was her first airdate!

 

i think by the end of 1993 they started making the production more “cinematic” slightly different lighting/camera angles and different music being used....I guess they were trying to go for a more “prime time” look.

 

March 1996? That early? Wow. I thought it was summer for some reason. What a rough, harsh actress she was. Ugh.

 

I think I have the "Who Shot Jill?" stuff on a disc too (some of it, anyway), but I'm not sure if it is already out there.

20 hours ago, soapfan770 said:

 

Thanks for sharing!!!! It's been years since I remember watching the infamous pillow stabbing scenes as Ashley was finally allowed to go berserk following the chilling yet low key revelation. Throwing Jill into the mix of the Rick/Blade story was a smart move and really helped save and drive the story's climax and aftermath. 

That was a great scene indeed. It's a shame they didn't reveal to Ashley that Blade in fact had always tried to protect her. It's even more frustrating that up to this day, this still hasn't been clarified and Blade is remembered to be just as evil as Rick. Not that I've hear their names mentioned in the past 20 years anyway

 

And the music. Oh, the background music and the angles used when shooting. Makes me keep myself away from the artificial crap that's currently ongoing which makes me vomit.

21 hours ago, YRfan23 said:

Great scene from Brenda Epperson's second to last episode as Ashley, when she has a mental breakdown over being deceived by Rick and Blade! 

 

 

I think when Phyllis and the two Jacks... and Jack with Patty/Emily was done... the writers should have looked at this scene to learn how to do the aftermath of such a story to great effect.  What Blade/Rick did was rape and her reaction is the reaction that someone should have to having something like that done to them.  And plus when Phyllis/Jack had that happen to them... having Ashley remember this happening to her would have made those stories richer.. or even having Ashley think something was off about Jack, etc.

 

Brenda has always been the Ashley I loved best... and I agree with @yrfan1983 that Brenda played the gamut of emotions much better than ED would have.  ED went over the top when having her breakdowns... while Brenda played Ashley as being in shock, processing all that had happened to her, coming to her conclusion and acting out in a realistic manner.. with Jill being the support step mother for once to her.  Even though Brenda played the mental breakdown aspect of Ashley's character.. I think she played it as Ashley coming to terms with what happened and determined to come out fighting.. as opposed to ED.. who always played Ashley's breakdowns as her losing her grip on reality and becoming helpless.

How many times has Ash had a breakdown? And why?

2 hours ago, allmc2008 said:

How many times has Ash had a breakdown? And why?

 

-First breakdown I'd say happened when Ashley found out Dina was her boyfriend Eric's other woman.

-Second was learning that Brent Davis was her father

-Third was from part Victor's extremely cold rejection of her following her abortion, the other part was depression/guilt from the abortion itself.

-Fourth was after her husband Steven was murdered.

-Fifth was a mini-break following Victor's presumed death

-Sixth was the above following the Rick/Blade reveal

-Seventh was Ashley having to confess to Victor that she was in fact the secret woman Cole had been seeing.

-Eighth was learning of Brad and Olivia's affair

-Ninth was following her car accident and son Robert's death. 

-Tenth was her hysterical pregnancy after her miscarriage with the whole Adam gaslight debacle. 

 

Am I missing any? 

23 hours ago, YRfan23 said:

btw, thanks for the 1995 SOU stuff! I have to say, some of the pictures, specifically Jack/Jill, Nikki/Victor look later 90's, but maybe it's the lighting.....surprised Lauren got a shout out, as she spent most of that year on B&B to finish up Sheila's initial arch there.....

 

Your welcome!! The synopsis for the month I have mention Lauren was growing close to Paul again as she was helping him recover and regain his strengths from injuries from Phyllis running him over, but she also stopped herself short and was pushing him back to Christine as well. Coming off of her hot tub fight with Sheila over on B&B, I guess they really had no idea what to do with Lauren by that point on Y&R. 

Wow, considering how strong and "together" ED always come across IRL, it's amazing to think she portrayed a woman who was always on the cusp of insanity.

10 hours ago, soapfan770 said:

Coming off of her hot tub fight with Sheila over on B&B, I guess they really had no idea what to do with Lauren by that point on Y&R. 

 

With Andy long gone, Danny trapped in Cricket & Phyllis hell and Brad busy with Nikki there was no one left for Y&R to pair Lauren with.

18 hours ago, DRW50 said:

This is another one that used to be up a few years ago and I don't think it is now. Jill, Dina, John, etc.

 

 

What a fun clip! Marla really does look fantastic. Was Marla not interested in doing the show regularly or did the writers just feel she worked in smaller 1-2 year doses?

Colby Chester (Michael Crawford)in the ABC Movie Of The Week " All My Darling Daughters (1972) & My Darling Daughter's Anniversary(1973).