Linda Gottlieb article 1992

[DRW50]

That's a good description.

The only thing is you only want to see so much of these hairless men who have big muscles but look like they're all for show.

I still wonder what happened to the show in 2002. 2001 wasn't perfect but Tomlin and Broderick/Whitesell had done some decent stories, some with potential. Then it all went to pot. Even all those years later I still wonder what might have been with RJ and his daughter Keri, especially without that breathy blonde woman who was Keri's mother and nailed Antonio (before knowing who he was) during one of his breakdowns.

[Vee]

I blame Chris Whitesell from Sunset Beach for a lot of that, as well as Gary's own love for camp and flair over substance; he would drop everything for a hot piece of ass or a wild idea. I'm sorry but there is a right way and a wrong way to do light humor and I think RC's is vastly superior. Gary and Whitesell had Todd having wacky mariachi band fantasies during the Baby Jack story. Gary was a good guy and he has some good ideas, he can run a show, but until the past two years I'd've never said let him write one again. He did okay, however, during the strike despite several big missteps, and his DOOL is, um, passable. He's a far better producer, though.

The RJ/Keri story offended me. Finally a story for the Gannons and it was about Antonio and an obnoxious white woman who would not stop screaming. The only reason they cast Barbara Niven (who I could not stand, yet fans latched onto because of her open friendship with fansites) is because they didn't want to put another black woman on the show. But I did like Sherri Saum when Keri turned bitch - and then Malone killed her.

There were some great stories, though, even if they weren't always well-executed; the baby switch, Allison, Mitch, Natalie and Cris, etc. And some good couples. I loved Gabrielle and Bo, and Gabby's relationship with Todd. And a lot of good, classic moments, more than anything else.

[Y&RWorldTurner]

Tomlin's OLTL was the total opposite of JFP's dark and gloomy era, it was like they intentionally tried to be the opposite of her era, and who could blame them? After the JFP years, OLTL needed some fun again, but I think Tomlin and Whitesell went overboard with the camp and bizarre story ideas. They didn't know how to control themselves.

[DRW50]

The odd thing is that's one of my main memories of David Vickers; swaying to the music during the mariachi fantasy.

[EricMontreal22]

Poor Brandon Routh--he was SOO awful on it. And then he was recdast forone who seemed more gay or something?

I remember Sears on the show but have no memory of who he played except he was with Blair.

[DRW50]

The part I hated the most was that they had to have Keri unknowingly carry Antonio's love child with her mother. Why was that a good idea?

Thanks for reminding me of her name. Continuing on my porn train of thought, she always reminded me of those erotic radio talk show hosts/resort owners/magazine editors on the Skinemax circuit.

[EricMontreal22]

I like a good beefcake as much as anyone but yeah that hairless, muscly chippendales look seemed campy and out of date even ten years ago to me--not even fun eye candy.

I agree it started off though as a fun regime and I even liked some of the stunts (live week etc). I'd still love to hear exactly how Whitesell and Broderick worked together.

[DRW50]

I think that was the plan. That may have also been the reason for his Godly rant on his website.

And this guy was cast in a major movie...

Every time I saw the second Chad I thought of his AW role, where he was this weird hanger-on working for the big evil psychic friend network, Lumina. He was a love interest for awful Sofia Carlino before she left town. Then he ended up being turned to dust via lightning, because he wanted to turn against Lumina.

Teddy Sears/Chad also had a brief relationship with Troy's sister, which I dont' remember.

And he took artistic photos with the girl who played Flash/Sarah, for Nathan Purdee.

[EricMontreal22]

I didn't realize he worked as a producer right under Behr for much of her AMC. But I agree with everything you say.

I didn't watch OLTL every day back then, but wow I'm actually surprised I had no idea there were two Chads either... I don't even remember Flash before the Storm of Change (whichI admit brought me back watching full time because of Malone and Griffith returning.

Routh had a Godly rant? LOL

Superman Returns wasn't great but he was an ok boring Superman I thought--which shows how diff movie acting (tons of takes, quick scenes) can be than soap acting. When he was cast I happily ranted on to anyone who would listen how amazing it was they cast a lead in a 150 mill dollar movie with someone who was perhaps THE least charismatic and worse soap actor (which says something) I had seen in a long time (well since Carlos on AMC anyway came around)

[EricMontreal22]

You're really quite the connoiseur

[DRW50]

There were two Seths, not two Chads. Sorry for the mixup.

When Routh was fired I believe he put a rant on his website saying God would have the last word, or whatever.

[EricMontreal22]

HAHA ok I knew that. Too funny. *goes to youtube to look for those campy glance scenes they seemed to endlessly have between Rex and Seth 2*

[Vee]

Gary did plan for Rex (then named "Jamie" and cryptically asexual for his first four to six months on the show) to seduce Seth away from Jessica, which was the reason for Seth and Rex's very aggressive, homoerotic hate-on that year. JPL said he'd been alerted to this possibility when he was hired and had no problem with it. They'd planned to go all the way with it, apparently, including a bedroom scene. Then Gary got canned by Brian Frons. It was a real shame, as Rex was poised to be daytime's first (non-coded) gay villain. You knew things had radically changed when apropos of nothing, out of nowhere, Rex fucked two roving college sluts Mollie and Shawna in one episode and turned overtly nasty, as opposed to ambiguous and hard to read. But Rex remained popular as a snide schemer for a couple years afterwards.

Teddy Sears played Chad, who was at first just a dayplayer in the storyline where Lindsay tried to....sigh....frame Cristian as an Internet porn star to lower him in Jen's eyes. Chad was a bartender at RJ's gay bar (Break Bar) who Linds enlisted for help. Gary and the audience (and Gary) took a shine to Teddy, so he got a contract and did nothing for a year, except almost [!@#$%^&*] Blair and then enter a stunningly boring relationship with another needless character, Troy and Colin's sister Emily McIver. Emily had previously been referred to as "Carol" offscreen, which led to an unbelievably unnecessary rationalization by the writers who had Emily launch into a tortured narrative about how she had been called "Christmas Carol" as a small child, leading to her changing her name. Emily and Chad did nothing for a few months, occasionally sharing scenes in which Emily refused to get close to him because she'd heard he was "a player." Then Emily spent months supporting the "Joanna" story, then popped up once as an under-five at a frat party under Malone and Griffith, then disappeared for good.

[DRW50]

I didn't remember she was an under five. I'm surprised they didn't bring her back again just to kill her off in that story about the college students biting it.

I still sort of wish they'd bring Chad back for Blair. I guess we can take Chad the lifeguard from last year as some homage.

Did Seth even have an exit? I just remember him showing up once or twice after Jessica broke up with him and Erin left the show.

[EricMontreal22]

Right I heard about that story--and it was obvious and actually I think I woulda have enjoyed it--I certainly like JPL more back then.

HAHA I forgot about the net porn star thing. I don't remember Emily at all but I do remember CHad hanging around looking pretty with nothing to do for a long time (Sears has had a pretty decent career since then so I guess the laugh's on them)