Members KMan101 Posted March 20, 2020 Members Share Posted March 20, 2020 (edited) I'm guessing Rauch wanted Zimmer/Reva to be the Lucci/Erica of GL. Sex Goddess all the men fall for her. Not even close! lol. It never worked. Early flavor Reva is SOOOO different and such a better character than Reva was in her return. I love Josh and Reva but I always found them to be a toxic couple, lol. Even early flavor but there was just so many layers and better writing and acting. It worked. It didn't work when they randomly had Josh screaming at Reva and hating her. All of that was JFP. It's so devastating to watch such a smart, sexy, well written show turn into ... a Phelps show. Phelps is so lucky she had Curlee for a bit but she clearly drove her away. I can't say I blame Curlee. It all fell apart though. I can't even say Jill made the show any better looking because I thought it looked fine. They really fucked up the show's momentum. It never recovered IMO. I can kinda understand why, in 1991, they'd hire Jill Phelps, but ... I do think P&G soaps were probably dead after Edward Trach was gone. Not sure why CBS/P&G ever wanted to replicate the ABC and NBC soaps. Sad how all three networks had such unique soaps that stood on their own only to get muddled in the 00s and become the same as each other. Edited March 20, 2020 by KMan101 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members KateW Posted March 20, 2020 Members Share Posted March 20, 2020 Also from March 1995 Wendy Moniz first episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWIC-UzZTEg Monti Sharp last episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_7Acub2lDA Besides the big cast purge and EP/HW changes, 1995 also saw recasts (Rebecca Budig, Russell Curry, Wendy Moniz, Toby Poser, Jennifer Rozell), returns (Lisa Brown, Michael O'Leary, Kim Zimmer), and time slot changes by CBS affiliates in major media markets. I'm amazed GL made it through the rest of the 1990s after all this went down. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted March 20, 2020 Members Share Posted March 20, 2020 The show barely survived 1995 and 1996. It was nearly canceled, supposedly, in early 1995. The ratings rise in late '95 helped buy some time, but the rumors started again by fall '96 when the ratings crashed. If the Bells had wanted to expand B&B to an hour I think GL would have been canceled. It felt like they were thisclose around that time period to the B&B hour. (they were, of course, smart not to do so - I don't think it would be on today if they had) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MichaelGL Posted March 21, 2020 Members Share Posted March 21, 2020 Watching these recently uploaded episodes of GL from 1994 reminds me how much potential the show had after Curlees departure yet horribly wasted it. It makes me sad. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khan Posted March 22, 2020 Members Share Posted March 22, 2020 No, I think that's Jay Acovone (ex-Brian Emerson, SFT). Unless you were talking about the parrot? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanessaReardon Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 Oh stop! Nancy Curlee, to this day, is friends with JFP. Stop saying that Jill drove Nancy away. That is completely false. Geez. #getFactsBeforePosting 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dan Posted March 22, 2020 Members Share Posted March 22, 2020 Think it was probably more to do with interference from CBS/PGP that caused Curlee to leave. You are right in that most writers/execs have generally been fairly complementary about working with JFP. You had the quashed A-M/Gilly romance in the fall of that 1993, plus a growing insistence to emulate the ABC shows that the network would start around this time. Not to mention that Ed Trach left PGP at around the same time that Curlee left. Ken Fitts would eventually cause havoc with all three shows. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanessaReardon Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Nancy Curlee and Jill are good. I hate the speculation. Gossip that is not true. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members slick jones Posted March 23, 2020 Members Share Posted March 23, 2020 I can't imagine how anyone could be friends with the horrible JFP. She did more damage to daytime than O.J. Simpson's trials. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanessaReardon Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Oh and Kman, Nancy Curlee is very easy to find on social media. And she will answer you. She didn’t leave GL because of Jill. #Truth Ok. Yeah, that’s intelligent. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted March 23, 2020 Members Share Posted March 23, 2020 4/10. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Paul Raven Posted March 23, 2020 Author Members Share Posted March 23, 2020 Despite her online reputation re her onscreen output, JFP always seems to get compliments from actors/writers etc and it doesn't come across as insincere - so the woman must have done something right over the years! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Forever8 Posted March 23, 2020 Members Share Posted March 23, 2020 I bet Laura Koffman might disagree. Please register in order to view this content 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BetterForgotten Posted March 23, 2020 Members Share Posted March 23, 2020 (edited) The credits were such a mess in 1994 post-Curlee - they went through so many HW's for at least a year after that. I noticed that Patrick Mulcahey is listed as the sole HW in the episode immediately after Curlee's last. Mulcahey's Tweeted a bit about how it wasn't fun working on the show post-Curlee and the corporate interference that happened during his brief HW stint (which, in Curlee's case, drove her away forever). Edited March 23, 2020 by BetterForgotten 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members KMan101 Posted March 24, 2020 Members Share Posted March 24, 2020 (edited) Gonna just be nice and say ok. Thanks for the information. I can see why folks have issues with you Please register in order to view this content it's not what you say, but how you say it. Again, thanks for clarifying I clearly believed what I thought so .... oh well. It happens. She was driven away by interference. I assumed it was Jill. Show me the receipts it wasn't. Edited March 24, 2020 by KMan101 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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