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On 4/13/2021 at 6:56 PM, JarrodMFiresofLove said:

 

It was a bit jarring to go from 36 year old Sherry Mathis one day to 29 year old Louan Gideon the following day. But I think they had to find a quick replacement because they were in the middle of a huge quadrangle with Liza-Lloyd-Sunny-Hogan. If they had written Liza out for awhile, then the other three main characters would have stood around with nothing to do.

 

Louan Gideon's first two weeks had her working exclusively with Joe Lambie because Lloyd had whisked Liza away on his private jet to Burgundy, France. So in a way, that probably made her transition into the role a bit easier since she wasn't having to interact with the rest of the cast immediately.

 

The circus story began in late May/early June and ran through the summer. So TR was not supposed to be in school during that time. Ryder's family owned the circus so he probably received most of his "education" on the road. Danny was a bit older than TR and Ryder and I think he was supposed to have just finished high school. TR and Ryder were around 16 and Danny was about 18 at this point.

 

Re: Estelle, there was an episode from June 1985 I watched where the Sentells and Kendalls are in a family therapy session with TR. TR talks about losing people she was close to, such as Travis and a guy named Sailor whose dead body she found. In one of those therapy scenes she mentions losing her mother, implying her mother (Estelle) is dead.

 

So I am not sure if Lloyd had lied about Estelle being dead, or if the writers intended for Estelle to really be dead and then retconned that part later on. When Estelle comes to Henderson in November 1985 she is said to have recently been living in the fictional country of San Marcos, located in the Caribbean. San Marcos is also where Martin Tourneur went to run a casino, when he left Henderson in October 1984.

Well, the story, or backstory, of Lloyd and Estelle was rewritten constantly. Estelle was initially named Aileen, when she was an offscreen character whom the newly introduced Lloyd was in the process of divorcing.  Far from “dead.”

 

 

 

 

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57 minutes ago, Chris 2 said:

I wonder if there was any attempt to get Meg Bennett back when Sherry Mathis left. Or had that ship sailed (maybe Meg was west coast-based by then).

I wouldn't think so. Even if asked I don't think Meg would be interested in going to a low rated NY based show.

Was Meg writing for Y&R at this point?

Meg was from a different era of the show.

She portrayed Liza Walton Kaslo who seemed like a different character to Liza Sentell.

Only Larry Haines remained of her family from her time on the show.

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2 hours ago, antmunoz said:

Well, the story, or backstory, of Lloyd and Estelle was rewritten constantly. Estelle was initially named Joanna, when she was an offscreen character whom the newly introduced Lloyd was in the process of divorcing.  Far from “dead.”

 

The backstory for Matt McCleary was also a bit murky, until he finally showed up on screen in 1986.

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And wasn’t Martin revealed to have been the father of Steve, thus making only Michael, Alec, Chase and Rebecca full siblings?

 

Even TR’s name—The Runaway, morphed into Theresa Regina, yet born Rebecca Kendall. Estelle is calling her Theresa, not Rebecca, at the end of the series. 

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20 hours ago, antmunoz said:

And wasn’t Martin revealed to have been the father of Steve, thus making only Michael, Alec, Chase and Rebecca full siblings?

 

Even TR’s name—The Runaway, morphed into Theresa Regina, yet born Rebecca Kendall. Estelle is calling her Theresa, not Rebecca, at the end of the series. 

 

I don't think her name was ever Theresa Regina. It was Theresa Rebecca. Lloyd called her Rebecca, and Estelle called her Theresa. Everyone else (Travis, Liza, Stu, Danny & Ryder) called her TR.

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OK, but did Theresa Rebecca (or Regina) run away or was she kidnapped because I still don't understand why her father didn't recognize her?

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1 hour ago, JarrodMFiresofLove said:

 

I don't think her name was ever Theresa Regina. It was Theresa Rebecca. Lloyd called her Rebecca, and Estelle called her Theresa. Everyone else (Travis, Liza, Stu, Danny & Ryder) called her TR.

I think Rebecca was named Theresa Regina by the people who kidnapped her. 
 

I assumed Estelle called her Theresa to honor that, since TR never really responded to Rebecca.  It was awkward. 
 

There may be an episode that clears this all up, but I’ve yet to rediscover it. 

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15 hours ago, j swift said:

OK, but did Theresa Rebecca (or Regina) run away or was she kidnapped because I still don't understand why her father didn't recognize her?

 

I guess it depends on what age TR was when she left the Kendall home. I assumed she had been kidnapped. If she was just a small child, she would have changed a lot physically by the time she was 16 when she crossed paths with Lloyd again. 

 

I always thought the runaway part occurred after she ran away from her second set of parents (the Hawkins), before she met Liza & Travis. I could be mistaken on this. In the family therapy episode that aired in June 1985, she says that Mr. Hawkins died...so maybe that is how she wound up on the streets prior to living with the Sentells.

 

If she had been kidnapped as a small child, how would she have remembered the Kendalls and known she could go back to them?

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On 4/16/2021 at 6:20 PM, JarrodMFiresofLove said:

 

I don't think her name was ever Theresa Regina. It was Theresa Rebecca. Lloyd called her Rebecca, and Estelle called her Theresa. Everyone else (Travis, Liza, Stu, Danny & Ryder) called her TR.

TR used to sing a lullaby in French to Elan. This was a song she remembered her mother (Estelle) singing to her as a baby/young child.  Some things stayed with her, some things did not. 

I wouldn’t recognize a 16 year old that I hadn’t seen since they were a baby. But not recognizing people on soaps is not uncommon, especially if it serves the plot. 

 

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49 minutes ago, antmunoz said:

TR used to sing a lullaby in French to Elan. This was a song she remembered her mother (Estelle) singing to her as a baby/young child.  Some things stayed with her, some things did not. 

I wouldn’t recognize a 16 year old that I hadn’t seen since they were a baby. But not recognizing people on soaps is not uncommon, especially if it serves the plot. 

 

 

And I think you're right: I vaguely recollect the name Theresa Regina being used at some point.

 

I didn't realize that Joanna had been used for the name of Lloyd's wife at one point. That's now the second character named Joanne whose name was changed. Sometime in 1983, Billy Lewis' ex-wives were referenced as Dina and Joanna. When ex-wife #2 arrived, she was known as Reva.

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Somebody didn't think that Jo's full name was Joanne?

Having a Jo and a Joanna on at the same time probably wasn't the best idea.

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On 4/17/2021 at 9:19 PM, robbwolff said:

 

And I think you're right: I vaguely recollect the name Theresa Regina being used at some point.

 

I didn't realize that Joanna had been used for the name of Lloyd's wife at one point. That's now the second character named Joanne whose name was changed. Sometime in 1983, Billy Lewis' ex-wives were referenced as Dina and Joanna. When ex-wife #2 arrived, she was known as Reva.

I was wrong. It was Aileen. I was thinking of Joanna/Reva when I first typed my post. 

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11 hours ago, antmunoz said:

RIP Olympia Dukakis (Barbara Moreno). 

 

Someone tweeted about her time on SFT:

 

 

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