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IIRC, B&B location shoots in its first decade were Queen Mary (1989), St. Thomas (1992), Catalina (1993), Barbados (1996), Lake Como (1997).

Of the CBS primetime soaps, I'm pretty sure Knots Landing had the most former daytime actors in the main cast or in short arcs. I pointed out before that CBS had so much of their own daytime talent that could have been used on their primetime soaps but for whatever reason the CBS primetime soaps used ABC/NBC daytime actors instead. I have a feeling demographics played a part in that, since CBS on the whole skewed older compared to ABC/NBC.

This is shocking. RIP.

CBS daytime had the best promos BITD.

Hahaha 🤣 Sadly I don't have much hope for October being any different.

September was like 90% garbage time.

The William Devane Exclusive Interview Sep 2024 (knotslanding.net) From this interview, I get the impression that William Devane was on his way out and would not have returned had there been a season 15. At the start of the final season, the longest-tenured main cast members were Michele Lee, Ted Shackelford, Kevin Dobson, and William Devane and during the final season all but Michele Lee had their episodes cut. Michele Lee took a pay cut to appear in all episodes of the final season. If Knots Landing had season 15 in Fall 1993 it would have looked old school next to peak 90210, Melrose about to take off, and new drama NYPD Blue.

Lets not derail this thread by giving Josh Griffith stunt casting ideas.

@YRfan23 Am I remembering correctly that Juice came back a decade later played by Todd Bridges?

This was the first of week of 1984/85 season that all four soaps and the two rookie hits had new episodes broadcast. The previous weeks of 1984/85: September 17-23, 1984: The Cosby Show series premiere. Dynasty was a repeat. No Knots Landing, Dallas, Falcon Crest. September 24-30, 1984 (in date order): Dynasty season 5 premiere. The Cosby Show episode 2. Dallas season 8 premiere. Falcon Crest season 4 premiere. Murder, She Wrote series premiere. No Knots Landing. October 1-7, 1984: Knots Landing season 6 premiere. No Dynasty. October 8-14, 1984: No Knots Landing. October 15-21, 1984: No Murder, She Wrote. Here's what happened on the soaps and two rookie hits the week of October 22-28, 1984: Dynasty - The Rescue: Jeff and Blake learn the woman who died in the plane crash with Peter DeVilbis cannot be positively identified, but the ring she was wearing is indeed Fallon's wedding band. Back in Denver, Fallon's funeral is held. Dallas - Family: Jamie offers J.R. proof that she is really a Ewing. Cliff considers a lucrative offer from Wendell. Pam and Jackie see Mark Graison's car. The Cosby Show - Breaking with Tradition (episode 6): Cliff's father attempts to convince a reluctant Denise to attend his alma mater. Knots Landing - Hanging Fire: Greg tells the police that he shot St Claire because he had a gun and was about to shoot Abby. Abby concurs and Greg asks her to make a public statement on his behalf. Falcon Crest - Shadows: Richard's attacker is revealed. Lance faces opposition at the newspaper. Joel mugs Maggie at the track. Emma has a surprise visitor. Murder, She Wrote - Hooray for Homicide (episode 4): Jessica travels to Hollywood in an effort to stop a sleazy producer from turning one of her novels into a steamy film. When the movie mogul turns up dead, she is horrified to learn that she is the chief suspect.

Diana was gone Spring 1984. Lucy first departure Spring 1985. So a year apart.

I haven't seen any of Chris Brooks or Peggy rape storyline but from what I remember of Cricket date rape storyline, Bill Bell covered the physical/emotional effects and the medical/legal aspects. Also Cricket date rape was a summer social issue storyline, so that played a big part in the story being told responsibly. I agree that Christine and Michael should not have been in each other's orbit romantically after the sexual harassment and attempted rape a decade earlier. That was Jack Smith doing. I doubt Bill Bell would ever have gone that route.

We all know second half of 1986 to end of 1989 Cricket ate the show. I will give LLB credit for improving as an actress during the date rape storyline. If you recall during the Entertainment Tonight Y&R 50th anniversary special, LLB commented that Bill Bell wanted to tell the date rape story "properly". I got the impression LLB was taking a swipe at how other soaps told rape storylines irresponsibly in the 1980s. I wonder what TL issues were w/ Jack storylines near the end. Perhaps he sensed Bill Bell was losing interest in the Abbotts or maybe TL had issues w/ Ed Scott. Remember that Cricket eating the show overlaps w/ Ed Scott becoming EP. Also 1987-1989 it seemed Bill Bell was losing interest in the Abbotts w/ Traci role being reduced and then the Ashley and Jack recasts which threw off the balance in the family. Terry Lester will forever be Jack to me. His Jack was such a layered character and all those layers got lost w/ the recast. I always point out that 1989 was wonky w/ the females. Cricket ate the show, Cassandra was the show's new pet, and the rest of the main females (Jill, Katherine, Nikki, Ashley, Traci, Lauren, Nina, Leanna) were given second and third tier storylines. Cassandra becoming the show's new pet overlaps w/ MTS pregnancy leave, ED departure w/o a proper exit storyline, Bill Bell rushing into recasting Ashley, BE Ashley floundering until the Brad/Traci/Ashley triangle, and Nikki floundering from MTS return until the storyline w/ PB Jack.

Exactly. As we all know, the following season we saw a sophomore slaughtering and a sophomore surprise while the primetime soaps tanked.

Great magazine cover @Soapsuds 1984/85 was expected to be the biggest Dallas vs. Dynasty battle ever, but little did we know that a rookie hit was waiting in the wings to blow up and another rookie hit was waiting in the wings to shock the world.

Tomorrow (September 22) is the 35th anniversary of the launch of TGIF w/ Full House season 3 premiere, Family Matters series premiere, Perfect Strangers season 5 premiere, and a preview of Free Spirit. Just the Ten of Us season three premiere was the following week. Promo for TGIF launch TGIF first intro

@Khan That was from the IMDb description of Murder, She Wrote season premiere.

Here's what happened on the primetime soaps and two rookie hits the week of September 24-30, 1984. Dallas - Killer at Large (season 8 premiere): Bobby is blinded by a bullet wound. An attempt is made on J.R.'s life. Cliff strikes oil. J.R. realizes the killer is still at large. Falcon Crest - Requiem (season 4 premiere): The families are united in tragedy as survivors of the plane crash mourn the dead. A new threat to the winery arises. The Cosby Show - Goodbye, Mr. Fish (episode 2): Cliff arranges a funeral ceremony for Rudy's goldfish. Dynasty - Disappearance (season 5 premiere): Jeff goes after Fallon and finds her car wrecked from a collision with a truck, but Fallon is nowhere to be found. Alexis has to pay two million dollars bail. Dominique's husband, Brady Lloyd, comes to Denver. Murder, She Wrote - The Murder of Sherlock Holmes (series premiere): Former English teacher Jessica Fletcher travels to New York to celebrate the success of her debut novel. But when an unwanted guest is murdered by gunfire at a costume party, she wishes she'd stayed home. No Knots Landing on September 27, 1984.

@soapfan770 You posted the 1988/89 opening. The Cosby Show was still #1 but its dominance was threatened by the breakout success of Roseanne. 1989/90 The Cosby Show and Roseanne tied for #1. 1990/91 Cheers was #1 and The Cosby Show dropped to 5th. I loved the first four seasons of The Cosby Show. Something felt off during season 5 (then again 1988/89 alot of shows felt off due to after effects of the writers strike and changing times), season 6 I started losing interest (mainly due to Olivia being a replacement for Rudy. In 1989 Keshia Knight Pulliam was 10 years old so her cute kid days had met their natural end and Raven was 4 years old.), and the final two seasons I didn't watch at all in real time except for the series finale (I did see bits and pieces of the final two seasons in reruns. Cousin Pam was a replacement for both Denise (her role was reduced then eliminated) and Vanessa (her role was reduced) plus an attempt to attract the urban audience that was gravitating to the Fox shows.)

Great job on the video @Maxim

I love how the little girl is giving big bad Larry Hagman the stare down.

Yes, it did. If it wasn't for the breakout success of The Cosby Show, who knows if Family Ties, Cheers, and Night Court would have found the audiences that they eventually did. NBC Thursday dominated primetime for the better part of 20 years, from the start of The Cosby Show until the end of Friends.

When factoring in real time (Spring 1989 to Summer 1992) and watching online (Fall 1992 to Spring 1994), I didn't watch GL for very long but I'm glad I was there for the Calhoun years and that I got to see the best work of two of daytime's finest Michael Zaslow and Beverlee McKinsey.

TV One Celebrates the 40th Anniversary of The Cosby Show Tomorrow (September 20) is the 40th anniversary of The Cosby Show premiere. It was such a big part of my childhood but its conflicting to celebrate the anniversary when considering what we know about it. Despite everything, the impact The Cosby Show had in both television history and popular culture is still being felt today.

Wow, 15 years already since the end. It doesn't feel like it's been that long.