BetterForgotten

It’s so bad - this show has a problem with story execution. So much falls flat unfortunately.

And another Beyonce mention/shout out - she’s by far the most mentioned real world celebrity on this show.

This Allison actress is horrible and it feels like she’s reading her lines off the back of her hand.

The Y&R scenes that aired today had to have been filmed a few weeks before his passing. Kudos to him for even wanting to do them and fighting through until the very end.

Bless her, but she’s becoming the Queen of the short-term soap stint. My assumption is this will be no different.

It seemed like Jess and Tristan became great friends over the years - when Jess agreed to come back to Y&R in 2012, she had 2 requests - (1). That it would be recurring (which it’s been ever since to varying degrees) and (2). That they keep Tristan as her love interest because the two had hit it off and loved working together (regardless if the Jill/Colin relationship ever made any sense)

The show is a streaming pile of rubbish creatively, but I think @Errol mentioned this on X weeks ago, there have been some production changes that do make the show look a little more cinematic when they try. The lighting design is very different than what it was just a year ago. JFP’s influence in the booth? The production did improve (with all the show’s limits) when Ed Scott came back, and it looks like some of that stuck. It’s also obvious when better directors like Owen Renfroe and Sally McDonald direct and the angles/movements they use. The sets issue is still a major problem amongst many other things though.

Nothing against Mariah, but I think it’s totally laughable she’s getting the MTV Video Vanguard Award at the VMA’s this year when she’s never won a VMA in her entire 35 year career up until this point. She’s never been a video/visual artist either. Some cute videos here and there, but certainly not in the class that people like Michael Jackson, Madonna, and Janet were. Just goes to show that so many of these lifetime achievement awards are a marketing gimmick that’s paid for by an artist’s management team when they have something new to promote.

Exactly - to this day, I’ve never seen a network show peak that quickly in its first season and then lose all hype in season 2 and never be able to recover from it. It lasted 8 seasons, but stopped scoring major Emmy or award recognition after season 1 and the hype train in the media abruptly stopped. I can also clearly see why as they were never able to match what they captured in that first season from a creative standpoint.

God, I hate Ashley and Jen Jacob’s “acting.”

I couldn’t watch the show for a few weeks, but I tune back in and this b!tch is on and I want to want to go to sleep. Michele, girl - Stop trying to make Ashley happen. It’s not gonna happen.

Same

Another thing about that promo - Kat is wearing a red and black print, the same colour pallet to what she wore in the “You Ain’t My Muvah” scene. Jessie’s hair right now is also quite similar to what was it like in late 2001. Kat also had a leather jacket on back then, and Zoe is wearing one in this promo. Jessie’s look at the end of the promo is chilling - when they give her the material, she can do so much with just her eyes alone. I wonder if they consulted with Tony Jordan at all about this return. Jessie being his muse and he’s talked about how much Kat is based on his wife.

I feel like she often got the short end of the stick writing-wise - they seemed to really know what they wanted to with Kat and Little Mo in the beginning (and Zoe being tied to Kat heavily) whereas, Lynne was just left with a stupid relationship with Gary and whatever she had with Beppe of all people. Things never really seemed to get better after that for her, and she was very dour.

Wow, they did a real cinematic promo for Zoe’s return/reunion with Kat. Regardless of how many times the show has tried to rip off of it, that Kat/Zoe storyline is still so iconic. (I guess Sharon is also back as Letitia has a brief appearance in this promo) Also, September marks 25 years since the Slater’s arrived. I can’t believe it’s been that long - here is their arrival promo from 2000:

I’d love for her to try some newer/up and coming producers actually. She has the platform to break in new talent and would be great for her to use it more.

Happy 75th anniversary to Sunset Boulevard - one of the best screenplays ever written and Gloria Swanson delivers one of the best cinematic performances in history that didn’t win the Academy Award.

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Sometimes you shouldn’t revisit things, and I honestly think this was one of those cases. Even in the original series, I was never convinced that MPK was nothing more than an overhyped buffoon. In fact, I think the best season were when Darren Star was still there (the first 3 seasons). The latter 3 seasons were a mess and lacked the zest of the initial seasons, IMO.

Yes, I’m sorry you had to go through any grief @mikelyons - this is all supposed to be fun message board discussion fodder.

If JFP is listed on official scripts as a producer for upcoming episodes then she’ll be credited on screen. I think they maybe wanted to keep her discreet until the cover was blown and now they have to credit her for the work she’s doing. @Errol - I know you had previously said it was a non-producing role so possible things changed or the show is just finally crediting for work she’s been doing for a while?

It’s not that surprising if JFP is working in the booth - the directors direct in there and rely on the staff and supporting producers in the booth to facilitate much of that work.

Yawn and a total waste. Leslie/Monica deserved better than a reconned relative played by a Friend of Frank.

RIP, what an original and truly dedicated performer she always was (even when TBTB lost interest in Lisa). She’s simply unforgettable in the context of American daytime soap opera and I will always cherish my memories of watching her.