Everything posted by BetterForgotten
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LATEST RATINGS: June 16-20, 2025
Beyond the predominantly black cast, BTG seems to share a lot more in common with Generations than I initially thought. Both start off with some promise, but the execution left a lot to be desired and there was very little heat to any of the stories that should be more exciting than they actually are. Generations didn’t start to ignite into something interesting until Jorn Winther joined as Senior Executive Producer and brought some recasts and forced Sally Sussman Morina to step her writing up (for her standards at least). By the time things truly started to gel, NBC was ready to cancel it. I hope the same doesn’t happen to BTG, but it’s clear they need someone with a stronger vision to steward the overall production and story execution into a better place like Winther did for Generations. I realize BTG had only been on the air for like 5 months, so I’m really hoping they’ve started to retool some things as they gear up for the second half of the year.
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BTG: Encore Discussion Thread
“Enjoy the burn” when your ratings stagnate and trend downward.
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LATEST RATINGS: June 16-20, 2025
I think BTG has some structural issues that makes it very hard to invest over time. The show has done a poor job of properly building or maintaining momentum for a lot of its stories. The stakes to most sorties often feel incredibly low and muted. The start/stop nature of some things also isn’t helpful.
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LATEST RATINGS: June 16-20, 2025
Ouch for BTG, the Bell soaps had a good week (despite awful writing) and it didn’t benefit BTG.
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GH: June 2025 Discussion Thread
It’s kind of grotesque that they’re doing a story about someone who is clearly not authorized or the parent handling/touching Sasha’s baby just to gaslight her. Is no one at the show paying attention to the nasty optics of this story?
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GH: June 2025 Discussion Thread
The flashback to Gio destroying the violin is hilarious in isolation.
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BTG: June 2025 Discussion Thread
If Ashley doesn’t get written out by the end of summer then I’ll know no one at the show is paying attention. It’s almost universal that this character has not worked since the very first episode. She’s sabotaging herself too because isn’t she supposed to be training Eva and setting her up for success?
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BTG: June 2025 Discussion Thread
Dani’s hypocrite ass has some nerve talking about Nicole projecting her anger on other people when that’s all she does.
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BTG: June 2025 Discussion Thread
I don't know if its by design or not, but this show has a problem with maintaining momentum, IMO. Again, I don't need the same conversations over and over again, but the big stories need a more consistent throughline that builds to a payoff that makes sense. There's a start/stop functionality on the show that I don't think they've fully mastered at this point. I feel like that may account for the erratic ratings trends.
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What Are You Listening To?
- BTG: June 2025 Discussion Thread
After Dani held her at gunpoint at her wedding and casually feels entitled to show her way into Haley’s house whenever she feels like it, I won’t feel bad for Dani if Haley fakes a miscarriage and frames her for it ala Annie/Reva on GL.- Fantastic Four: First Steps [Marvel Studios, July 25, 2025]
Final trailer:- ARTICLE: Mystery Behind Aristotle Dumas Leads ‘The Young And The Restless’ To 11-Week High Among Total Viewers, Continued Year-Over-Year Growth In Key Demos – RATINGS
I guess crap like this is why Josh Griffith doesn’t get fired despite how creatively bankrupt he is?- Y&R: June 2025 Discussion Thread
- BTG: June 2025 Discussion Thread
It’s time to recast or write out Tomas. This guy cannot act or string together a believable sentence. It’s been long established that Bill is a serial cheater. Why does Haley think she can tame that, and why does Dani want to keep putting up with a man that was never loyal to her in the first place?- BTG: June 2025 Discussion Thread
Minus the bulky ass earrings, Haley looks great today in the green ensemble.- BTG: June 2025 Discussion Thread
I don’t know how upset Dani or her kids would be if Andre had another side piece - especially given his supposed reputation as a “playboy.” From the writing, Dani doesn’t see Andre as more than sex as she’s still emotionally entangled with Bill.- EastEnders: Discussion Thread
I just haven’t cared for anything that’s been dished out for like a decade + at this point. I’ve seen both good and bad eras of the show, and Chris Clenshaw’s run (which some folks seem to really like) left me a bit cold from what I saw. The show still seems as short sighted and and hastily produced as possible to me. Also, because Corrie and Emmerdale suck, it doesn’t give EE a pass for mediocrity. I’ve seen a lot of that behaviour on other forums and I think it’s stupid as hell. There’s a segment of fans that are so desperate to cling to anything after the very loooooooooong dull period EE experienced (which tbh, I don’t think it’s really recovered from based on what I see).- EastEnders: Discussion Thread
Behind the scenes of Michelle Ryan’s first day back as Zoe. Ben Wadey talks a bit about the Slater era being his era of the show. Jessie seems elated as well. I’m not watching as I feel disconnected from the show in its current state, but hope it works out, even if Zoe was damn annoying outside of her relationship with Kat.- BTG: June 2025 Discussion Thread
I think an issue I’m having with the show right now is that the stakes to all these stories feel so muted. The pacing moves fast, yes, but the stories don’t feel gripping or as if we’re building to something interestingly explosive. The stories need more fire, for the lack of a better word. I want to see if this continues as we approach the 6 month mark, or if they’ll use that as an opportunity to pivot some things.- BTG: June 2025 Discussion Thread
Reminds me of morlock/mutant character Leech from Marvel comics.- GH: June 2025 Discussion Thread
No one has been so awfully dressed in daytime since Louise Shaffer replaced Maree Cheatham as Stephanie Wyatt on Search for Tomorrow.- BTG: June 2025 Discussion Thread
Ashley just doesn't work - they need to write this character out IMO. Derek, too, but he's less problematic for me right now.- BTG: June 2025 Discussion Thread
I think people are conditioned to B&B, BTG being a new soap doesn't have the same sentimental factor. If anything, it has more to provide being a brand new entity.- BTG: June 2025 Discussion Thread
I think a valid critique I have is that it feels like a lot of things may "advance" but they sometimes go nowhere - what was the point of that sexual harassment case, or Anita's Articulettes reunion? It kind of felt like those things wrapped up as soon as they started. Was the latter simply to usher TT off the show for a planned break? That doesn't mean longterm story, IMO. Also, sometimes things are dropped for weeks before it gets revisited - that kills story momentum. I don't need the same conversations every day, but when you go multi episodes without revising something, it does make it harder to want to invest. - BTG: June 2025 Discussion Thread
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