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Liz also freely admits she always re-wrote her lines and ad-libed. She told a funny story in that interview with Alan that someone once told her they couldn’t believe she was still re-writing her lines on THE DOCTORS, and her response was, “Well, somebody should!” I can imagine something like that driving someone like Marland insane. He wrote so much of his shows by himself and was often involved to the in every aspect of the writing. It probably worked his nerves to have an actress like Hubbard putting her own unique stamp on the material in ways he might not have imagined.

It seems to me like she enjoyed the pre-Marland writing for Lucinda more. I guess I can see a more free spirit like her not adjusting well to Marland's sometimes heavily rigid approach to characters. And I love her to bits, but I know damn well she was never easy for producers, writers, directors, and actors to work with, lol. Lucinda wouldn't have been Lucinda without Liz, but I know she probably didn't make that many friends in the process.

It's funny that Liz does not seem to think very fondly of Marland's writing. When she was asked what she thought of Marland's writing for Lucinda, she said he didn't enjoy writing for her and he preferred writing "young love." She said she had to fight very hard for Lucinda. Very strage to hear all this as Lucinda has always been one of my favorites from Marland's era.

I love how Liz says what she feels with no f.ucks given.

Did anyone watch Alan's chat with Luz Hubbard (and uh, Martha)? I haven't seen it yet, but looking forward to seeing Ms. Hubbard speak.

None of her successors were any better. Laibson and McTavish tanked the show so bad they had to bring in Paul Rauch. That’s also when cancellation talk started to happen for the first time. Initially, Rauch and the interim writers, Victor Miller and Michael Conforti, did add some momentum back to the show but it unraveled pretty quickly.

That last decade must have been a real clusterfuck behind the scenes. Didn't Gina Tognoni and Tom Pelphrey also have a bad break-up (he cheated on her) that led to her destroying a dressing room? That was the rumour back then.

Gee, I wonder what she spent most of that on...

You've only posted about Beth Ehlers on this board so far, Kimmy. I can only assume you must be her.

Not surprising, Linda Danilo was one of the few keeping a somewhat positive spirit alive on that set during the last 10-15 years of the show.

MAB had the longest run of any of those hacks. So her tenure was a lot more painful for me to sit through and the most satisfying when her ass was rightfully fired.

Of course she omitted her disastrous AMC stint in that narrative, lol. I'm surprised she admitted to missing Harley as I felt her hatred for playing the character really showed in her last few years in the role.

I think the first firing from DAYS humbled SSH a lot, and certainly the second one too. She's said as much over the years. The reason she agreed to play Johanna on Y&R, which was never a big role and could have likely been played by anyone, was out of her friendship with the Bell's. She said she knew she would never have the same stature on that show, but appreciated and respected that Bell came to her with a role when DAYS had dismissed her.

Or why they seem to appreciate the classic library so much, yet refuse to let the show embrace it's identity in present-day and has actively tried for years to prevent it from doing so.

Kristen was also god awful and boring for the first two years or so.

I've never been a fan of Lindstrom in any role, but I think it was just a misuse of words, he seemed fairly complimentary of Hubbard. That's nice of Cady for complimenting Yvonne Perry, but really, I thought she made Rosanna her own and did the best work of her daytime career during her first stint at ATWT. I think the most honest part of that video chat was MEK basically saying he did the GH role to keep his health insurance, and how he wrote Frank a letter basically asking for a job. I hope he's well (not that he isn't or anything).

I will always hate MAB and company for making Katherine the saint of Genoa City. She's a bitter and miserable old lady, and I loved her that way!

I'm almost sad that discussion of classic episodes being re-aired is driving more discussion in this section than when the soaps were/are airing new episodes, lol.

What's even funnier is that Amy subbed for Beth Ehlers when she was on maternity leave in '99. It was like someone at P&G was in on the joke.

I know Rauch played a part, but Labine had clearly lost touch with sensible storytelling by the time of her GL stint.

I'm guessing it took some time for Alan to schedule this since he probably only worked at AW for less than 2 years before it was cancelled (he said in the AWT/GL chats that he started working with those shows in 1997 [probably AW too]).

I did remember missing Eve when she was killed off, strangely. Almost the entire show was in the shitter by that point though.

Linda's always been down to participate in these types of chart. I'm not surprised she was probably the first one to sign on for something like this.

I found JE largely terrible and insufferable as Paulina (Cali Timmins forever!), and I never found Adrienne to be much of a character on DAYS. I was shocked (in a good way) when I got around to seeing her as Beth. Though, strangely, I did enjoy her as Bonnie, lol.

I always found it interesting that Kimberlin Brown originally auditioned for Cassandra. She would have never worked for that type of character or story, IMO.