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I think OC season 9 benefitted from cutting Alexis and Gretchen from the cast and adding Shannon and Lizzie. Season 10 is showing that perhaps another shakeup is needed...I could see this being tamra last season...and having her baptized and passing the torch of mean girl to Meghan is maybe where things are heading?

I loved the secret diaries..it started out so innocent with laura at 12...and you could see the gradual changes in laura as she got older. Including a year long gap in the dirt time line due to 'someone' reading her diary.

I remember during the alex/Mindy tangles in 1993/1994...there were a few instances where Van would earn alex to back off Mindy...and she would say it in a cold,but firm way that would get alex to back off. I'd always envisioned reva, Vanessa and Holly as strong pillars for the show. In different ways. Reva would be the salt of the earth version, Vanessa the detached but strong as steel version..and Holly as the sarcastic, cynical version...and Maureen being the maternal/warmth version. Shame TPTB didn't see that long term.

I still remember one discussion Wallace and O'Donnell had about school shootings...and the way Wallace presented her view while not discounting rose's was awesome...and it eventually lead Rosie O to concede that maybe she is probably unrealistic in her view on war not being the answer. So Wallace was a good choice and she seems to love to do the giveawayd..if she doesnt love it, she hides it well.

I think the problem with berrengers was that it was scheduled on a saturday night...when the target audience wasn't home...plus, too many characters to keep track of. Though with all the mergers in the department store world...it could have had a long life on tv.

Wow..that's bad considering the fact OC had such winners as quinn, peggy, lynne..etc lol

I do recall he and Hilary friend dated for some of 1983..right up to when Reva arrived.

I do agree kristen is probably too nice to be on the housewife show. She probably would have fit back in the earlier version of the show...same with Joyce on BH. Claudia on RHOA should never have been a main housewife so I'm glad the producers realize that...shame they haven't gotten the memo on Porsha. Nene is Atlanta safly..but she hasn't been into it since Kim and Sheree left. The problem with Meghan is that I don't know her...and the show hasn't done a lot to introduce her to us. Perhaps we should get to know a new housewife first before she interacts with the other women. It worked for tamra in her debut season...and Eileen on BH was featured by herself for three episodes before she met the other women (outside Lisa rinna).

The blonde was Katie Hamilton...I've seen interviews with her in the past. She's a Christian like Alexis and Lydia. .but came across intelligently. I think her quitting caused a lot of editing. I think she left in mid feb. Lizzie will be more like Luann then porsha in the friend role. The thing is that this Meghan and Shannon conflict didn't need to happen. We were cheated out of seeing vicki in Florida and tamra getting read to be a grandma. The editors need to be fired and replaced..since the story they chose to focus on was wrong.

I think nene has been over the show for awhile now. Is she still doing the road trip show with Kim?

I can't believe porsha is coming back..I hope it's in a demoted role. Kim fields...hmmmm... well Eileen and Lisa Rinna had a good first season so not hard to believe...plus she's an actress and can make scripted scenes more legit.

Tonight's OC was missing something other then more airtime for the OG of OC...such as something interesting going on... That wine cellar/room looked creepy..right of fifty shades of grey. http://www.chicagonow.com/confessions-coffeeholic/2015/06/rhoc-whine-country-recap/

And the benefit of Brandi being gone is that Kristen on NY now officially has no.job security...silver lining. Also...Kyle/Lisa V/Lisa r/ Eileen were bonded in their dislike of Brandi and Kim to lesser extent. With both gone... they will turn on each other..unless the new housewife bought in is vile.

Although I.think Lisa rinna proved she could be bat [!@#$%^&*] crazy..and being a people pleaser rubbed Kyle the wrong way last season. I think seeing Kyle without Kim and Brandi will be interesting. And I'm all for Camille returning full time...she was a rich bitch, didn't drink, dressed well and was good at shading...and didn't swear either

What scary is that twitter is saying that Brandi is the only reason to watch... yet Eileen's debut episode as well as the reunion episode where Eileen was featured the most dragging Brandi without breaking a sweat were highly rated.. I'm sure we can have a housewife who is wealthy, bitchy, is a non drunk and isn't sleazy fill in....hell.no to Faye R.

NY is hit and miss for me this season.. Love Dorinda, but too much Bethanny... and the show could have downgraded Kristen, Sonja, and Carole.. and had five women to focus on with the other three being friends of. OC seems real, but I wish that the show had cast a Lydia type to balance out the angst that Vicki/Tamra/Shannon look to be projecting this year.

I did.see an.interview from.a few years ago with katie.Hamilton and she was like Alexis only smart.She would have been a good addition.

Actually i like Dorinda and think she's a great addition. I would have dropped Kristen, Carole, and had Sonja as a friend. Five housewives and one friend... I think five or six main women are the best in terms of equal focus...seven is kind of pushing it...though BH did pretty well this past season with seven.

I'm unpopular but the only time I've liked bethanny sans her talking heads was the scene of her in the business meeting. Otherwise, she's been an insuffable Debbie downer. Ratings haven't been all that good this season for NY..and I think its due to too many women, too much focus on bethanny..and too much contrived group outings without proper individual scenes (barring bethanny and Dorinda). With that said, anything with Ramona is reality gold...she and Vicki G are the stiff reality shows are made of

I'm wondering if the reruns will continue into.the early 70s so that we get to see a young Anna Stuart and Julia Duffy.. that would be interesting.

Rewatching the pre.Barnabas episodes...I can.honestly say I liked the show better before Barnabas and.Julia.Hoffman hogged all the airtime and character development. It seems like a mix of Jane Eyre as well as secret storm..pre supernatural elements. I can also see why it struggled some as well.

Lisa Rinna can bring the drama..no.need for Brandi nor Kim. Both of their stories have been told.

Iva was a tragic character...and I'm glad that she got her happy ending when the character was written off. Nowadays, she would have been kidnapped,murdered, gone psycho, etc if the character was being written off. Or worse, shed be written like how Nicole is written on Days.. hamster wheel, punching bag, etc.

I must be watching a different show because bethanny is such a Debbie downer. The vibe was so much happier and fun before she showed up. With that said, I do think heather also was in the wrong for keeping things going instead of backing off. And quite frankly if heather is jealous of bethanny then she needs help. I don't find one thing about Bethanny I'd be jealous of. She's probably the most unhappy I've ever met...and that's sad. To me...heather is that know it all girl we all went to school with. You smile to her face and roll your eyes behind her back. Lastly, the web exclusives on hulu I wish were on the actual.episode. we got to get talking heads from.behannys staff as well as Sonja's interns. I want to see them in their day to day lives with some group introduction.

Didn't Jennifer runyon's Sally start the peter/sally coupling? I could have seen her with peter...but I think.when mpk took over as Sally by summer 1983...I couldn't buy her Sally with Peter...if that makes sense. Perhaps the change in actresses shifted.the story?