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It's funny that Julia was on the shoe a year and a half before the show started the process of pairing them. I often wonder had that not worked, would Julia have been written off?

So I've not watched season 3 (waiting to binge it :). I have heard that a lot of the show isn't even set in Twin Peaks..and I have to wonder if perhaps there is some padding going on since the order was supposed to be for 9 episodes then got extended to 18 episodes. Would that be accurate to assume that to be the case?

So going back to RHOC....i will agree that Shannon and Vicki are alike especially on how they mother their daughters. Shannon and how she acted during Sophies first dance, when she was trying on make up, etc....reminds me of season 1 Vicki talking to Brianna before senior prom about not having sex, no drinking, etc...then crashing brianna's date at the mall in season 1. Shannon's oldest just turned 16..and I can see Shannon doing those things by the time her oldest is a senior. Hopefully, the spirit shown in one of her twins Stella will outwit the helicopter parenting of Shannon.

Just happened...and in slow motion

It wasn't a bad episode of RHONY..but I think if rather have had Ramona sit out the trip. Sonja vs Tinsley, Bethenny being her usual bitter self and Luann and Dorinda would have been enough. I think for season 10, they need to freshen up the cast a bit. Or perhaps they need to take a cue from OC and not all film together as a group all the time.

This is eeriee that T amra is the calm one. Twilight zone territory.

I think both celeb and angel come in 1988. You wonder about Angel for awhile...and you don't truly get the answers till 1990/1991.

Rhoc I love the balance between the old format and the drama/confrontation style. I was hesitant about having seven women as housewives...but if it means that Vicki or Kelly aren't featured so much during certain episodes..i might change my mind. Peggy is intriguing so far...and seeing that she is dealing with breast cancer and a double mastectomy..reminds me of the struggles my late mom had with breast cancer. Regarding Lydia vs. Shannon...both are in the wrong. I think Lydia was a little pot stirrer...but Shannon reacted too over the top. Had some flashbacks to season 9 when Lydia kept saying Shannon was yelling...but the footage the editors shown didn't really support Shannon yelling. In this case, it's all perception over what one defines as yelling. After the harshness of RHONY, the toxic elements of Potomac and Atlanta(I think season 3 could stand for some timeouts where none of the women film together and do separate narrarices)...RHOC is my fav

Isn't it true when Bethenny returnes...a lot of heathers stuff wasn't shown and kristen didn't have a whole lot focused on her till the end of the season? I admit when season 7 of NY came..i was interested to see Ramona post divorce, and how heather/kristen/Carole would mesh eith Bethenny. Sadly...the show became all Bethenny...and we hardly got to see Ramona in her day to day life...and come on...Ramona on dates would have been comic/reality gold. So I get why Ramona is pissed at Bethenny.

Luann and Ramona have always worked as friendlies. Once the two made up in season 5...they were fun to watch. Is it bad that I have grown to love season 5?

Blake had to be adjusted...just seeing Liz's first days as Blake and how she delivered her lines...they had to adjust the character. SS had a very dry and sarcastic way she delivered her lines...made Blake cool and calm...with a biting wit. Liz's reading of those lines was more like a spoiled rich girl hence the adjustment to the character.

This is why I'm not feeling NY....because bethenny is calling the shots and all focus is on her. Heather, kristen, and Jules were cut cause they happened to let Bethenny know that she ain't all that....though I think Bethenny actually respected Heather. That's why I dread Nene coming bacj to Atlanta...cause she almost had that same power before she left. Teresa is the same on NJ. That's why I kind of still like OC cause none of the women hold that power..not even Vicki. Headther dubrow found out she didn't have that power quickly. OC is the show that gets little love from Andy....heck Wendy Williams hardly talks about the OC anymore on her show....yet the OG keeps going.

Maybe Tamra is serious about finding Jesus...she does seem calmer...and she was at Sydney's graduation per Instagram. I think Shannon moved to start over fresh...but as I learned from watching the tv show Sisters. You can move houses, but you also bring your problems with you along with the furniture. I hope for some fun scenes of Shannon with her three girls. Her oldest Sophie has grown up! Lydia...i just love Vicki...she needs to stop mentioning brooks...or im praying to God that she gets demoted come season 13. And I'm glad Eddie asked T amra not to meet Vicki. I'm sick of the contrived gatherings...and people being angry having to be in the same room. The thing that made all the old fights and drama pop..wad that it was organic and not so contrived. Vicki and take a don't film much together this season...so I hope the show uses the anticipation of a face off between Vicki and tamra...as must see tv. And I think the group vacation should be one of the only times all the housewives should be required to be together. That's why I'm not into RHONY this season...they are always together and very little is shown of their lives. At least Jules had stuff to show last season with her kids and marriage.

Emma had two more love interests in the late 80s and early to mid 90s. Cal Stricklyn and Ned Simon.

Well with RHOC, you're goinna have to be patient if you want drama since all of them don't film together much till the last quarter of filming. A lot more cliques and less group gatherings...and more focus on their family lives. I think that might work...get out appetites and anticipation for when certain foes face off.

I figured Eileen wouldmy habe time with her doing both days and young. I'm surprised Doritt is back...shr was such a dud. If she continued being a dud in her second season them she should get the ax

Mctavish created Fletcher and holly..if I recall due to her thinking it was dysfunctional for holly to remain with a rapist....odd considering a lot of her MAC and OLTL was pretty dark.

I loved willa Ford...and she did dancing with the stars...i think.

The problem I'm finding with this season is that it's the same ole same ole. Tinsley is ok, but doesn't have an interesting life to explore and doesn't bring a spark that the show needs. I'm also noticing there is way too much group interaction and a lack of an indiVicsual narrative. I miss the days when the women did their own thing and didn't need another housewife in the scene with them. I think at least 2 or 3 should be cut..and hire 1 or 2 newbies...married with kids and lives outside the group that we can see and gasp in awe. RHOC sounds like it will be less group...and I think that works better...it where our appetite for a showdown if we are made to wait for it.

Megan's tagline is made of win!!! I love that the families are still in the intro. Seeing vicki's new man in the intro makes me wonder...hmmm.

Actually Seth and Betsy were involved...right before she left town. I think Lindsay frost brought a fierce and fiesty element to Betsy that Meg Ryan didnt provide...probably why her betsy and steve didnt work. So Marland probably didn't know how to write/position her on the canvas. She couldn't be the dumb ingenure, nor was she the villianess either...and anti heroine was filled nicely by Emily....so supportive character was probably the best Marland could do.

Agree that Ed was missing from that story...given the close bond he and Blake always had...plus you know it would habe caused strife with Roger and Holly given the complicated history of those three...plus even organically caused Fletcher to realize that Holly would always be tied to Roger and Ed.

I know Agnes Nixon used part of her A MC bible to create Rachel and ada....as well as marry Rachel off to a med student. The difference was Alice w asnt like Tara...and that's what made the rachel/steve/Alice story work at first...Alice was no shrinking violet..

That's why I liked the Tory story...because Ross was the one who cheated...and he did lead Torry on. I liked the twist where Blake was the one to save the day..and that the obsession was for Blake..not Ross.

Which of the two actresses did you guys prefer as Mindy...Krista T or Kimberly Simms (not even going to include Ann Hamilton nor Barbara Frampton as choices). To me..it seemed like Mindy and Mallet were being tested as a couple...but then the gears shifted. Was this once Pam Long left the show?