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Only thing that would have made Eileen's effortless shut down of Brandi epic was if during the segment where Brandi was slamming Eileen's decorating style.. Eileen could have said 'at least I own a house to decorate.. how's that rental working for ya'. I have a feeling that had Yolanda stayed for the whole reunion, I don't think Eileen would have been able to fully shut down Brandi..imho. I don't think Yolanda would have tried to block Eileen from speaking like she did with Joyce, but I know that she would have tried to further excuse Brandi's behavior.

I think the actress playing Carla is the reason why Carla hasn't quite been ruined and still has an essence that can't be destroyed by producers/writers.. etc.

I'd prefer something closer to this type of comedy then the more mean-spirited stylings of 30 Rock, Parks & Rec, etc. However, my favorite sitcom is The Middle... it has the quirks/sentimental elements of a Full House along with the more cynical elements of the above mentioned shows... it's a perfect melding of those two types of genres.

The first two or three seasons when Stephanie was the cute little kid were decent...but when mihelle grew up...that's when the show veered off. I think Stephanie had the most developed character of the three girls..imho

Vicki's mother died recently as well as the mentioned Brooks situation. Tamra is a grandmother, plus lost custody of her children. Apparently she's being playing nice with Lizzie, Shannon and newbie Meghan. Rumors state that she's fallen out with another housewife just recently.. not sure if during the trip to Tahati.. or afterwards... rumor has it Vicki and her are still not getting along. . Katie H. apparently did drop out, unknown what will come of what she filmed. Rumor has it she and Heather had issues during filming. For the most part, there has been drama.. but it hasn't been too toxic... and there have been some fun moments, too. Heather has been groveling/trying to be besties with Shannon... while Shannon/Vicki are still getting along. And I guess the women took a trip to Napa Valley early in filming. All rumor thus far.

She's coming back as a friend. There has been some interesting behind the scenes drama at the OC during season 10 filming.

Was holla ever cute? At least nene and Vicki had cool catch phrases. I can't wait till Vicki is on our screen..but I have a feeling she won't be doing a lot of 'woo hoo' this year if reports r true maybe Shannon or jeana can cheer her up

I think Eileen needs to channel Kristen a bit more at these reunions since her peacemaking and common sense approach r lost on these women. I think Kyle looks a combo of work done and losing too much weight. Anyone over a certain age needs a little extra weight on them to look younger especially in the facial.area

Brandi's 'slaying' and comebacks are as old as that tampon string. Plus, she's only 3 1/2 years younger then Kyle so that line really fell flat for me. The fact that most of these women (kyle and Brandi especially) can't seem to argue without swearing, threatening bodily harm, etc.. just shows how much they lack in intelligence. The only reason Brandi swears and threatens bodily harm is because she can't articulate verbally so she resorts to name calling, threatening bodily harm, etc.. I doubt Brandi could even hurt someone. She's all bark and no bite. For me, Kyle has a mean streak... but she is so emotionally that she can't properly harness that mean streak. Kim, on the other hand, has no trouble harnessing that mean streak. It's ironic seeing Kim and Brandi so buddy buddy when during the season 3 reunion, Kim was the only one to rightfully defend Paul and Adrienne.. and went after Brandi. With that said, Lisa R looks like she's a train-wreck.. and can easily replace Brandi as the stirrer of drama. Brandi has run her course, it is time to send her on her way. It worked for the OC when they sent Gretchen and Alexis packing so I think it can work for BH, as well

Co-sign on that!

I think why RhOc worked last season was due to Shannon. She came on, didn't want to.hide anything...and worked to.improve herself and her marriage. Plus, the other women under estimated her. Will be intrigued to.see how season 10 will.handle new housewife katie h quitting midway through filming. Rhobh worked this season due to Lisa r and eileen.. it would serve the show long term to axe Brandi since Kim actually behaved somewhat when Brandi wasn't around. Rhonj should have added a newbie or two during season 4 and 5 to keep things from getting stale. Rhony..too many cast mates and only two r married. I would have dropped Kristen and Carole..and had bethanny as a friend..since it appears that bethanny can't feature her child, isn't sharing about her relationship that has since ended..etc. Rhoa...too much shade and teams... can porsha and phadra...have Kenya and Claudia as friends...and cast well off housewives who r married.

Reading some of the past pages, I noticed that the most popular of the Sally Frame's was MPK.. and seeing her youtube work.. I agree she was pretty good. I've never seen Taylor Miller's take on Sally, but everyone seems to think it was subpar so I'll have to agree. What were the thoughts on the other actresses who played Sally Frame? I know there was one that eventually played Cindy Brady in a Very Brady Christmas, plus one or two grown versions before her.

Yes...I remember Garrett saying she would have stayed if Holly was shown getting stronger after the roger ordeal. I'm surprised Maryland had trouble writing such complex characters like Rita, holly, and Jackie. I think the only reason Nola was so fleshed out was due to Lisa brown more so then the writing itself I know the actress who played katie said she regretted staying after the dobsons left as well. Hence why I think Pam long and Marland would have worked well since she was great with emotion and heart...and he was good with plotting.

I think Kim didn't really have anything on Harry.. she was just saying that as a defense mechanism.. and it just happened to be true. You can see that Kim tried that with Eileen as well and it didn't work. When Eileen had her time to discuss her issues with Brandi and Kim.. the fact that she just hit them with logic and common sense.. actually deflated them.

Finola.Hughes was offered a part on passions but due to five year contract turned it down. I could have seen missy reeves playing Sheridan. James Hyde should have been hank..made more sense.

I dont get why they didn't just cast Chris Robinson as Vince Mckinnon.. especially if the show wanted to take advantage of hiring Denise Alexander and having them paired together again. All of the stunt casting on AW in the mid 80s of luring big name stars from other soaps.. just proves that the practice isn't a new one. Though if you are going to get a big name soap actor.. make sure that there is a good character for them to play.

the last few episodes prove we don't need brandi for drama.. lisa Rinna has a temper and is a people pleaser.. which can rub people the wrong way ironically... shame andy cohen is blind to the fact that Brandi is just played out. To those that say Brandi brings it at reunion time, this maybe true.. but must we suffer watching her all season just to get to the reunion? I say keep her off the show during the season and have her come out during reunion time. Orange County had Jo come back for the season 3 reunion even though she wasn't a cast member so it isn't out of left field.

Didn't Ken and Deirdre spend a decade apart before reuniting? If a former couple reunites, it should be organic and natural.. not cause the writers have nothing better to write.

No to sally/kevin reuniting. One of.things that hurt US soaps are when couples make up.and break up. I like that they get along with one another for the most part. They seem better divorced.then when married. Sally has a strong relationship with someone...now the show needs to find a strong relationship for Kevin. Its a shame that brief flirtation with the sofa owner went no where. Lose kal and his parents..keep the two teen characters. The adult members of that family could still.be living on the street only never seen..mentioned but not seen.

To be honest, I was kind of bummed that Lydia and Petti weren't in last weeks episode. I would have loved to have seen what they were doing while the other women were golfing together. I assume Lydia was in Italy for her son's wedding.. again I think a comical scene of Lydia trying to get ready to go to Italy would have been funny.

I don't think Ceara not taking off had anything to do with Genie Francis and her being associated with her GH character. She was fairly popular when she was on Days, but I think she quit when there was a writer change and her character got lost in the shuffle. I think the problem with Ceara was that the writers didn't really know how to present the character. I faintly remember the first months of her character showing her to be a gold-digger.. trying to entice David while his father Jeremy decided to date her to save his son from her.. and even some Erica/Ceara sniping at one another. Once the incest story took over.. the character became this teary eyed character and never really recovered. The incest story made sense in a way.. since it helped explain why she was kind of bitchy and not wanting to get emotionally involved with someone.. but the show never really found a way to maintain the character's initial edge. Same thing kind of happened with Gloria, when she was raped by Will. Though there were instances when she would revert to her previous con artist approach (case in point.. during her wedding renewal vows to Adam when she outed him for faking his kidnapping, or when she instantly knew Ryan lavery was trying to con her when he first came to town.).

I do think the 2nd Josie was pretty good.. tough, yet still retaining the dreamer essence that the first Josie provided. The only thing I could say about Josie #3 was that she looked like the 2nd Josie.. but had neither the personality nor acting talent of Amy Carlson. And I do think Jenna had cause to be 'mean' to Lorna.. considering the fact that Lorna played the porno tape Jenna was conned into making for all to see. I think Jenna was a good girl, but wasn't afraid to fight and stand up for herself. yes, she could be drippy.. but she was still interesting to me. She wasn't devoid of personality.. which is what I think soaps are failing miserable with nowadays with their good girl characters. Jenna and Amanda were the good girls.. but were flawed and when they made mistakes.. they weren't let off the hook. Characters like Lorna and Olivia (the bad girls) did bad stuff.. but they also had good points (Olivia was good friends with Jenna.. even giving her advice... and Lorna was good friends with Jake/Paulina...).

Robin Christopher.. good actress... she just wasn't Lorna. I do give her props for playing out the whole rape aftermath as well as the scenes with Morgan and Victor... even being able to mirror Alicia Coppola in mannerisms when she first took over. However, she just wasn't Lorna and the character changed into a polished woman with decent dress sense and add to the fact that she looked nor acted anything like Felicia either (especially when replacing an actress who looked, acted and dressed like she could be Felicia's daughter). Kelsey worked as a member of the Harrison family.. being the Marilyn Munster of the family.. but she didn't work as a romantic lead. Dean/Jenna were a good couple.. it took over a year before they became a couple.. and it happened gradually. Donna Swajeski had said that Dean/Jenna were modeled after her and her long term boyfriend at the time. Lorna was a great spoiler for Jenna/Matt.. and man when Jenna and Lorna fought.. it was epic. I couldn't wait till Jenna found out that Lorna was Felicia's long lost daughter... that relationship was always complex.. they eventually became close.. but they would still bicker like sisters do LOL The Jenna/Felicia scenes in the cabin where Jenna saw the light in regards to Felicia's alcoholism plus miscarrying were powerful scenes. I did like the early D & D record stuff.. with Lorna, Jake, Matt, Dean, Jenna, Olivia mixing it up.. with visits/input from Paulina and her foster sister Hannah. It was a good mix in the early 90s. Also, I was watching some youtubes of scenes from 1989/early 1990. I liked how Vicky was the Rachel of that era.. hence why Rachel never really liked/trusted her.. I even liked seeing Jamie with Stacy.. even watching scenes of Jamie being a spoiler to Stacy/Derek in early 1990. It's a shame the show never really went forward with that.. Stacy was likable in that time period.. and it made sense that she would be drawn to Jamie due to their history.. while also bringing up the element of Stacy dating Decek due to wanting to rescue him, not cause she loved him.

It's interesting to read that the original concept of the show when it premiered seemed to be a combination of The Secret Storm (with one branch of the Matthews family reeling from the recent death of the father.. with the tensions between Liz/Susan and the weird transference of emotional spousal from her late husband to her only son Bill)... and As the world Turns (with the other branch of the Matthews family with a working father, supportive wife, and three children with only Pat starting off with angst while Alice and Russ were supporting/greek chorus). I can see what Irna Phillips was trying to do.. but she really couldn't merge those aspects together... and I can see why she only lasted a year or so before she departed.

If Brandi and Kim aren't fired after this season, it just proves that Bravo rewards bullies and enables addicts.