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I actually thought seyfried got better once the show moved her character out of the JR/Jamie orbit..and interacted her with other people. Her character had a promising romeo/Juliet type of story with Reggie before both were written out.

I think the iva factor was due to the actress being popular as Nola. My mom had a soft spot for Iva..the unlucky in love heroine. I liked Craig with Emily (Melanie Smith's version)..even with Samantha (the first one).

Lecy's Becky was kind of a brat...so Darlene bursting her bubble was always entertaining season 1 through 3 before Darlene went gothic. With Sarah's Becky...yoi felt kind of sorry for her because she seemed cheerful and Darlene looked bitter and mean spirited bursting her bubble.

I actually think the show could have made it if it was less preachy and told a good story. It certainly seems like an intriguing concept.

To be honest, while I loved the shpw...i don't see the point of it coming back.

And all the barbara/Hal marriage angst and break up would have still worked...with Kim being involved since it was her nephew...causing angst for bob/kim as well...since bob and Rick didn't get along.

I know the Iris/Donna angle shifted once Anna s came back.

I recall 1st watching when philece was playing Donna...and she played Donna as a dingbat. I was thrown when Anna Stuart came back...and the character became less dingy and more snarky.

What does everyone think is the reason Erica endured as such an iconic character over other characters? When watching the early 1970 episodes, no one probably would have figured she would have lasted over 41 years. I do think had she been part of the online show...it wouldn't have folded so quickly..imho

Researched a series of clips highlighting the Eden rape and aftermath...and I can see how the reveal of her OB as rapist would unsettle the viewers..especially when he was one of the people examining her post rape. It was like he violated her all over again. Marcy Walker was truly the stand out...and she had a lot of great support. I also liked her therapist Heather...michael's sister. It's a shame she didn't last too long cause she could have been used well in 1990/1991.

I do agree with Jeana....meghan on season 11 was grounded...pregnancy made her logical and calm...who knew lol Rhobh...adrienne in s1 and 2. Rhonj.....delores came closest since Caroline. On Ny...sober Dorinda...yes. I think Vicki on OC should have been fired...she crossed the line in season 10..and again in season 11. Rinna...thats a tough one. None of the women would want to film with her to make her get fired.

Cynthia has stayed grounded...considering the years she's been on the show. Who r the grounded housewives on the following shows.... Rhoc rhony Rhobh rhonj

Oddly...I thought Dixie during the brief online run was written as a 3D character... the first time in several years. She showcased her compassionate side, her sarcastic side, her ability to forgive and her judgmental side. It was the best shed been written since the 90s..imho.

It does seem like after the first two years...the show just focused on a small number if characters...with other characters only lasting 1 to 2 years. In some cases, like with the character of Amy...the actress chose to leave and the show wisely didn't recast...but I didn't get why the show spent a good year building up a new family for Lional (wife and two step daughters) only to write them all off after a year or so. The show banked too much on the Capwells...but once they were recast or left...the family was basically non existent by 1992...so I don't blame Pam Long for what she did..cause the structure was gone...and I did think the Walker family was a good idea. With that said, you had the perfect Santana in Ava...yet she only lasts a few months. Color me confused..because she had chemistry with Cruz..and good antagonistic vibes with Eden...so the whole cruz/Santana marriage to regain Brandon..would have been even better with Ava in the role. Plus her opposite robin mattson...would have been awesome. Oh well

If I were watching Santa Barbara when the Gina recast happeed...it would have been jarring...since RM didn't have the essence or resemblance to LG. Over time, Gina became less crazy and more comedic. The santana recast was more seamless..at least from #2 to #3. Gina G doesn't seem weak willed or clingy in the first episode...when did Santana veer in that direction?

Melbourne needed a little house cleaning...there were too many (8 is excessive). Chyna opted to go and I can't blame her especially with her businesses being at stake if more slanderous stuff got out...pettifleur had no redeeming qualities and shouldn't have been asked back for season 3...and Susie seemed too ordinary Since Chyka is gone...they need a more level headed housewife to come on...someone warm and logical..with a nice family life and business..but not afraid to stand her ground. If Tamra hasn't gotten her just desserts by season 12...I doubt she ever will sadly. Heather got raked over the coals more in season 9 then Tamra did...and Heather and Shannon got more flack in season 11 then Tamra..which was odd. I'm curious to see the season 12 line up...will Lydia make the cut as a main housewife? I know Tamra said in season 8 that she wouldn't want to cross her...which intrigued me.

Funny you mention clarissa... I remember in 2003 or 2004...Ross and Holly had a conversation about the kids...and Ross remarked that Clarissa was very spirited for a child..and a handful for blake/ross...but that Holly was great with her...and Holly said in her dead pan way..that she and Clarissa had an understanding. So the show looked to be hinting that Holly would be the buffer between Blake/Ross and a spirited Clarissa.

I forgot about Craig taking Kelly hostage when Eileen played her. I found a clip of that...and it didn't work cause eileen was too strong willed to truly be a damsel in distress. Plus...Eileen was so wrong for the part of Kelly. I noticed when Pam Long wrote kelly...that damsel in distress thing went from Kelly to BJ. Which made more sense..imho. I do wonder how Pam Long would have written for Flame...the Dobsons didn't know quite how to write for her...and I think Flame was unique in a way that Pam Long could have handled..imho

Ironically...Kelly stopped being the damsel in distress when Robin Wright left the show. Ironic considering how so not a damsel in distress her House of Cards character is.

Gloria....an interesting character right up till 1995 before the show seemed unable to figure out what to do with her...she briefly was in the Dr. Kinder story as his assistant...briefly flirted with jack...then tried to be Tad's quirky girlfriend before becoming Dimitri's stepford wife. Ironically..the last few weeks of her stint..she was more like the Gloria of 1991 to 1995...instantly figuring Ryan as a con artist...before opting to move to sunny California. I liked Dixie's hair in the online version of AMC the best.

Watching the early episodes...Kelly is so the damsel in distress...with Eden the confident dare devil. It's a shame once eden/Cruz got popular.... that Eden took over the damsel in distress role.

Kings crossing seemed more sunny and bright (based on promos)..yet from what I read..it looked like some good old fashion Peyton Place activities were going on.

Can we get in writing that Rinna will never speak of Kim again?

I believe Carolyn Colliton was his co headwriter during the 1st year or so of his stint...which might by why the 1st year wasn't too bad of his stint.

The Dobsons in their second round side create Angela Raymond...but I didn't like that they made Mason/CC tread water in their relationship or that Mason suddenly didn't like Sophia again. Katrina was written a bit better under Pam Long..but by then..the character was beyond saving.