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ABBA is the music we all needed, but didn't know we needed. Happy they're officially back!

I don't agree that the reputation issue is a Karen thing. To me, if you're on charity boards and committees...and someone close to you is accused of what Erika is accused of....I would hope you would be concerned and distance yourself. If someone is in your circle, it damages your credibility. I know I gave Kyle the side eye when she paraded Faye Resnik and kris Jenner as her friends. You are who you keep company with..is an old saying

Ellen Wheeler played Marley better than Vicki..while Heche was a better Vicki until the final year where her Marley was as good as her Vicki. Poor Jenson..she was a Marley, yet preferred playing Vicky.

If you love ER...you'll love St Elsewhere...finally on Hulu.

It was a wonderful show that never went schmaltzy. Realistic show..with memorable characters.

Garcelle is worthy successor to Kim Richards. Unlike Kim, rinna can't question Soberity...since Garcelle isn't an alcoholic

RHONY Took them long enough to chill out and have fun. RHOBH Erika: your story, like your music career, is a lie. I hope the witch is thrown in prison. When even Dorit is feeling sorry for the victims, that should tell her something. Crystal: After a promising start, she's now giving Teddi vibes. She's just there....she should be thanking Sutton, but she's 2 faced like Kyle Sutton, Garcelle, and Kathy deserve a raise. Without them, it would have been a waste. Kyle is probably the least interesting OG...she certainly is the less interesting and charismatic of her sisters.

Well Harley jane Kozak did ask the producer if her departure would be memorable and the answer was 'oh yeah'. My mom quit watching when Mary was killed off...only coming back to see Kelly's Princess Bride inspired wedding to Jeffrey and staying until she had enough of the Sonny/Mason story. She did check out how Eden would be written off..and she told me 'the show is toast now that Eden is gone'.

And it was a miscast

And yet the subpar Saved by the Bell was picked up. Sad

Speaking of Stephanie Braxton, wasn't she a last minute recast on EON..effectively playing out the last weeks of the intense character arc?

Kings Crossing promos focusing on the stormy marriage between the parents...and also the forbidden vibe between the daughter and her piano teacher. I do wonder if this would have done better on a different night?

The first weeks 60 to 70 episodes of Bold was set up. In fact, it felt almost like 2 different shows with the Logan family drama and the Forrester family drama in separate lanes. However, once Brooke/Ridge..and Beth/Eric reconnect...the show truly gets going. Looking back, Bill Bell was setting up the characters, showing their lives before the two families start to interact again. Soaps wouldn't do that build up nowadays..imho. My mom watched when it premiered..and she said the original Beth was an attractive blonde Grace Kelly type..and she couldn't buy Eric going for Stephanie...but when the mom is recast with a more passive, sweet darker Beth...she could understand Eric ending up with Stephanie. Though original Beth and Brooke looked like mom and daughter..and it helped explain why Eric ended up hooking up with Brooke.

Up till 2000/1 was consistently good and/or decent quality. 2000/1 to 2006 was a mixed bag where some of the show was decent..but other parts..not so much. The Glow by Jabot crew (Raul, JT, Billy, Rhianna, Brittany, and Mac) was the last strong 'young' group...it reminded me of the inter related groupings of the younger bunch in the 80s.... Patty, Danny, Lauren, Traci, Nina, Cricket, Phillip, etc.

I forgot over rated Robin Christopher (so wrong as Lorna) is married to Matt Crane. I guess if her doing it would make him do it..then ok.

3 unmemorable performers. Why not get the 1st adult Amanda, Matt Crane, and even one of the Jamie's?

I'm hoping the RH all stars at Dorinda's place is a test run for her coming back to NY. Also...something tongue in cheek..

Vancouver didn't film a season 2 reunion..so it isn't unheard of to not film one. Not much has happened in NY....just do a virtual WWHL reunion special and call it a season.

2006 was with Latham and Alden as co head writers. Shame it didn't last because Latham had interesting ideas and Alden had the history and soap opera writing experience to make those ideas work.

Eleanor could have been tied more to the hospital..as a board member, doing hospital drives, etc. I often wonder if she was meant to be written off by Depriest, but kept on when Marland took over? Her story seemed done and then the writer switch happened..and.poof she was back and starting the Luke story.

I think when Tori left town in early 1989, she worked it out to let Chip stay with Cruz. I'm surprised she last 2+ years on the show...I do wonder if there was a way to keep her on..without being the spoiler?

Karen and Gizelle have had a long time friendship. And Karen has said she likes Gizelle...and I think Karen is someone who will ignore you if she doesnt like you. She never ignores Gizelle and vice versa. And regarding NY, Leah has had 2 seasons and she hasn't proved why she should he there..so she can go. Now I get why OC drops lots of their housewives after a shaky 1st season...because they tend not to improve, but get worse with time.

So I'm reading some interesting rumors that Eboni and Ramona are back for next season? And Evan...😛😍😈

Actually back in 1996, people kind of cheered on Mari Jo for torturing the Bug. Some even said she found an effective way of shutting the bug up.(drugging her). I do.wonder how different the show would have been hav Mari Jo not been the shooter. Jack / Mari Jo were a good match...the few pairings of his that worked. Personally, since Stafford ended up quitting in 1997 anyway, maybe have Phyllis be the shooter. She meant to shoot Christine and got Victor by mistake. Phyllis would have kidnapped Chris and tortured her..would be in total character. I think 1996 was when Bell's health started to decline..imho

Susan Lucci played Erica as more comedic and someone you humored...while early Felicia seemed colder (flashes of that Felicia would come out..especially opposite Lorna in 1991-1992).