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I liked the BJ story, but would have preferred if they'd stayed platonic. Warren had chemistry with Angela...but she had chemistry with almost every guy..imho. I think when the Dobson's were writing that Warren/Angela were meant as end game with Cassandra as spoiler. When Pam Long took over, Cassandra was shipped to a mental hospital while Angela/Warren were broken up so he could pursue B.J. Personally, I was intrigued with the BJ story...she was disguised as a boy...with only Sawyer knowing who she was. And I was wondering if Long was trying to connect BJ's disguise as a way to shield herself from being violated. Alas, this was abandoned and a whodunit was done instead.

Gwyneth's being the killer made sense, and it tied back to when she and Trisha first came on the show. Their relationship was always strained..and remember she would interfere in her kids lives. I think Trisha's 'death' started her mental breakdown. She had a fling with Buck, miscarried, was lost and listless. I recall her trying new jobs like bartending in order to find purpose. She also was motherly to Janie and later Steffy. The final straw was Trisha being found alive and rejecting her. I believe that happened in spring 1995. And the killings started a bit afterwards.

Midwest.has wealthy pockets in it...and didn't they always reference Chicago and the North shore as well? People dressed up in the 80s/early 90s. I had relatives that lived around Peoria IL...smaller towns. And they dressed nicely in blazers, hair done, and jewelry. Either to go out or just in their day to day life. 2000s is when that trend changed (probably because of inflation and flat salaries...so less money for clothes and accessories..more to basic living Regarding Lily, I do recall reading in Marland's story bible that he viewed Lily as spoiled and that Holden would bring her back down to earth. I do recall a few 1985 episodes before Marland joined where she was moody with Dusty...and she would talk to Sierra and Shannon about him. And I think both of them would clue Lily in on her being unfair with Dusty.

I agree NY and Atlanta are having issues with just five housewives. Only NJ and OC have ever been able to have good seasons with just five housewives.

Actually Maura West was offered Cassie..and she turned it down. I don't get why LW thought she had pull...she was on the lowest rated soap. And she wasn't the main attraction for the soap. This is when soaps started decline because performers like LW didn't know deserve any perks.

I always thought it was interesting that Kelly fell for Joe, who came from a middle class family. And you saw in the first months of the show how close she became to the Perkins family. It seemed early Kelly was more of a Tori Spelling type (wanted to carve her own identity outside her family). I do agree that had this been more explored, it would have helped develop Kelly's character. Mason was the prodigal son, Eden the favored daughter, and Ted was the baby of the family so everyone loved and nurtured him. Kelly wasn't the favored daughter, and seemed aimless...trying to find security and somewhere to belong. It's why she was close to the Perkins family, and even tried to make peace with Pamela..Jeffrey's mom.

I did think Tess vs Sydney had potential, but the show didn't focus on that..nor give much focus on her odd couple friendship with Jacob..with Angie barely tolerating her. Tess seemed to fit more on The city then she did on Loving. Her most challenging role was playing dual roles on Capitol...imho

Gina (with Linda G playing her) vs Eden was pretty good...both of them handing one another some hard truths. Not too long after Robin Mattson takes over as Gina..does Gina vs Eden lose steam. I think Mattson struggled in her early months because she was playing a story arc that started with her predecessor...and the story no longer fit once Mattson took over. Once Keith comes on in mid 1986 and paired with Gina is when Mattson starts shining in the role. I was watching Gina G's first episodes as Santana..and she wasn't so whiny and desperate. I think the writing changed for her character once Mattson took over as Gina..imho.

If it's a choice between Ramona and Eboni to stay, I'm picking Ramona. She is RHONY....and Eboni/Leah either need to accept it or leave.

Carly on ATWT would have been made Delia like imho if Labine had helmed the show...like she did with Blake on GL.

I know Robin Wright auditioned originally for Jade...and I think she could have done the early stuff that Jade did (i.e. wanting to be an actress, etc). Plus, she would have relished being let go instead of being held hostage to the show. Melissa Reeves would have made a better Laken. She had a better rapport in scenes of her with Augusta, Lionel, and Warren...then Julie Ronnie did. I don't see chemistry with Todd Mcgee... but it would have worked better if she'd been Laken. Heck..Jennifer on DAYS was Laken 2.0 imho. It seemed like the Dobson's and who ever did casting recognized talent...just not how good at correctly casting the actor to the right role.

What I don't understand is why the show introduced Brenda's mom shortly before her year long extension was ending? Was it to usher her off the show? If so, big mistake because it was an interesting story and it helped show the audience who she was.

I'll be honest...I thought 1985 was a pretty good year for SB. Cruz/Eden at the start when both were individuals and not boxed into the super couple realm. And their conflicts in 1985 felt authentic. Mason/Mary were starting and were a nice opposites attract couple with her being from a working class family and helping less fortunate..while Mason came from a wealthy family with a chip on his shoulder. Christie rape trial really helped focus the show...and let's face it..issues with the wealthy having a different set of rules shows up here well. Brick/Amy were the couple with the most focus. The odd New Strainland story is so bizarre that having the 2 down to earth characters involved helped ground it. And they got the huge November sweeps wedding as well. Kelly was all over the place..but she just lost her 1st love just when they got back together so she was lost...and Nick was steady and grounded...so made sense why she went for him at first. Augusta/Lional were fun and dramatic..plus with Sophia being back..we could have had a triangle brewing. And having Julia come in as Augusta's conscience was a nice touch. Julia in 1985 had the benefit of not being in a super couple so she floated in and out of stories. She had a good rapport with Amy/Brick..even a nice rapport with Jack (sadly cut short because of Joel Crothers illness and death), and she helped bring some calmness to the Lockridge family. And original Gina was fascinating...could hate her, yet feel for her. Santana/Gina/Brandon had a lot of mileage even with the recasting of both women. 1985 set up a lot of good stories to carry them for years...yet in 1986 most were abandoned or ended too quickly.

In one of Christie's last episodes before she left, she and Mary have a sister heart to heart. Mary confesses her feelings for Mason, that she sees good in him and believes in true love while Christie clues Mary in on real life. Mary even asks if Christie believes in happiness and love while Christie basically says no. It was a good character study of both of them...and it's a shame that Christie was written out. She had a lot of potential and would have been interesting to see how she dealt with life post the rape trial. I think the Duvall's should have remained as a counterpart to the Capwells..since the Perkins were phased out by this point. And Ted seemed to never have his peers stay on. Jade/laken/danny were gone by 1986...and then Hayley/Jake with Laken briefly in 1986 to January 1988...and then Eva larue's character before he left in 1989.

She said in the interview that Marland had it in his contract to get royalties for his creations.

Now we know why Shannon wasn't dropped...Tamra and Shannon have unfinished business. I still think it's hilarious that Shannon of all people threw Tamra under the bus..who knew she had it in her lol

While the Claire story wasn't working...given that the actress playing her was known for playing ditzy blondes, she did quite well with playing the sadness of Claire. DA made Jill a classic manipulator with her sweet concerned voice masking her true intentions. She wasnt as broad as Dickson nor as sarcastic as Jess Walton either. And I like seeing more of Lilibet's take on Patty play out. No wonder Bill bell was disappointed when she quit.

I think Eileen Fulton was used sparingly not because of royalties..but speaking out about Sheffer and co. Up till 2000, she was used quite well. And interesting Marland had characters he created came with royalties. It does explain why Emma Snyder wasn't fired, but taken off contract in the mid 90s. Babette (ellie) props was the one she met during a Facts of Life audition. I noted when Alan mentioned trying to reach her to do a reunion but couldn't reach her...that Suzanne said 'she's keeping a low profile these days'...it sounded like she knew where she was but wouldn't tell him. And she was vocal about ageism, behind the scenes, etc. It was a good interview..and I think Alan should stick to 1 on 1 interviews. Also, it seemed like Alan was out of his depth with Suzanne...she seemed deep and thoughtful..and he seemed confused.

Robin Wright auditioned for Jade originally before getting Kelly...maybe she wouldn't have been so bored if she'd played Jade..who was more spirited. And I always thought Melissa Reeves should have been Laken instead. I did watch some episodes with Susan Marie Snyder as Laken..and she wasn't bad. The writing was the issue there...she could play vulnerable and rebellious...but it seemed like each episode had a different Laken in it. No consistency..imho.

When Dylan parachuted into Santa Barbara, he met Julia..while the two bantered and had chemistry before he became obsessed with Kelly. It's odd that Julia's intended pairings with Jack, David and Pearl didn't pan out...yet the random scenes she had with Brick, Dylan, and Mason had chemistry. Glad the show opted to go with Julia and Mason. Kelly was Santa Barbara's answer to Cricket Blair..or Lily Walsh..where all men wanted her. Of the brief characters that came and went...I thought Courtney had potential...and I liked Heather Donnelly (god knows the show needed a therapist). And of the dreaded Pam Long era...Lisa was a promising vixen and could have lasted long term had the show continued.

Julia was slated to be with Pearl as end game...they had scenes in early 1986 where they bantered a bit. Oddly, she and Brick also had chemistry as well.

I viewed the stripper part as a way for her to put the trauma out of her mind. To take back control after what had happened to her. Wasn't Casey originally stalked by Edward before he fixated on Nikki? Was that always the plan, or did the actress playing Casey opt to leave so the focus went to Nikki? And I think I read a synopsis where it sounded like Casey was moving to get away from Edward...he spies her packing, sees Nikki helping her and refocuses his obsession on her.

The one thing Pamela Long did as head writer was the Sophia/Ken thing. Sophia was always about her looks and being desired...so it would make sense she was taken with Ken. And the actor playing Ken had a sincere vibe so you could buy Sophia being drawn to him. It was one of the storkes during Long's 10 month stint that worked. I also thought the Angela/CC/Ted story had potential. It played up on CC's weak spot..being hurt by the women he dated/loved cheating on him (Sophia and Gina in the past)...and CC/Ted always had an undefined relationship...so having Ted be the one to hurt him (who he least expected) could have been played out. I think the cancellation of the show cut it short...by throwing Ted in Lily's orbit, while Angela/CC were in a holding pattern till the Sophia/Ken story wrapped.

So some people believe that the writing for Donna went downhill in 1986..in the last months of AS stint and remained when Philece played the part. However, I don't totally agree. Donna came in 1983 as a cold, controlled snob where appearance was everything. Given how happiness was robbed of her as a teen, it made sense she was like that. 'Little sister' Marley coming home in 1984 was the first dent in Donna's armor. This was her daughter, but had to view and interact with her as a sister. Having Marley in boarding school allowed Donna to repress things...but having her in Bay City would make that hard. Than Vicky comes along in 1985..who Donna had no idea about. Causes internal issues for Donna..leading her to realize she has 2 daughters, not one. Then Michael comes back in 1986..but both are different people from when they were teens..but agree to start again. So Donna's icy exterior is starting to melt because she has her daughters and her 1st love back in her life. However, her dad Reginald appears again...the one who sent Michael away and took away her babies. So she loses it because she never dealt with what her dad did..and since he 'passed', she figured she was free of him. Not so...and she loses her mind literally. And lastly Donna becomes pregnant with Michael again...her 2nd chance...but her father also takes her baby away by being the cause of her miscarriage. Had someone like Harding Lemay been writing long term, he would have had a field day with Donna and Marley. However, most writers viewed Vicky as the easier character to write...and Marley as a throwaway. Marley had more to play to..imho.

I thought Tonio hit his head during the struggle with Duncan in 1993/4 and died.