Members kalbir Posted August 24, 2023 Members Share Posted August 24, 2023 Angela Lansbury | 60 Minutes Archive - video Dailymotion 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted August 24, 2023 Members Share Posted August 24, 2023 I don't think they were in the wrong either. Friends was a show I never liked (and Matt LeBlanc and Lisa Kudrow are the only two people on there I find to be worth watching - not to derail your point), and it has dated very badly, much worse than MSW in my opinion. I don't blame Friends for the end of MSW, and I doubt Angela did either, but poking some fun at it wasn't a big deal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kalbir Posted August 24, 2023 Members Share Posted August 24, 2023 (edited) Les Moonves knew exactly what he was doing when he moved Murder, She Wrote to a time slot that had been a dead zone for CBS since Fall 1985. At a time when CBS could not afford to have any tank jobs, he straight up sabotages their only scripted show that was in the 1994/95 Top 10. Edited August 24, 2023 by kalbir 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaytimeFan Posted August 24, 2023 Members Share Posted August 24, 2023 Thank you. I had never seen it before. When she cried and had to drink both her tea and water, as her chin is quivering, in order to steady herself...that was really sad and made me mad. Yes, it was intentional sabotage. He murdered the show. For no reason whatsoever. As Angela said in the 60 Minutes piece, Sunday was always going to be a family evening (as it still is to this very day). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kalbir Posted August 24, 2023 Members Share Posted August 24, 2023 (edited) You're welcome. It was sad. I felt so bad for her. Angela carried CBS primetime on her back through some pretty awful years from the late 1980s to the mid-1990s, and it was terrible the way she was treated at the end after all she did for CBS. Murder, She Wrote and Angela deserved to have a proper farewell for the final season instead of being sabotaged. Les Moonves will forever be on my s--- list for the sabotage of Murder, She Wrote. Edited August 24, 2023 by kalbir 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Soapsuds Posted August 24, 2023 Members Share Posted August 24, 2023 Why is this show not on blu ray? It's ridiculous considering it was converted into HD years ago and there are even newer HD masters out on TV. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members soapfan770 Posted August 25, 2023 Members Share Posted August 25, 2023 Thank you as well @kalbir for sharing that 60 Minutes interview. Funny you mentioned the Friends episode. Some of my favorite MSW episodes deal with murder on a TV show lol along with the commentary. it was pretty obvious to me that the dying soap opera Jessica’s niece was on in “Murder in the Afternoon” was a stand-in for Search For Tomorrow while in “Murder According to Maggie” was obviously written by someone who hated Miami Vice & Top Cops and was also irate by The Equalizer’s cancellation. As for the move to Thursday nights I will say it disappoints me there wasn’t enough of a loyal audience that moved along with it so it could’ve backfired on Moonves. Oddly a year later when Diagnosis Murder got shuffled to Thursday nights it actually cracked into the. Top 30 up for a couple seasons there. Personally I enjoyed the pre-Corymore era I grew up with the late 80’s a lot more than anything post-1992. With the turn of the decade my family just stopped watching the show. No particular reason why myself and my siblings had other things going usually on Sunday nights and my parents had become addicted to Nick at Nite reruns instead lol. I think the last live MSW episode I caught was around 93/94 or so when Jessica was kidnapped in the middle of her book signing in Miami by Cuban/Russian smugglers and was locked in a car trunk. It was pretty campy bad. I didn’t see most of the 90’s eps til a few years later when they ran on A&E. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kalbir Posted August 25, 2023 Members Share Posted August 25, 2023 You're welcome. I recall three episodes that could have been homages to other CBS dramas: A Very Good Year for Murder (season 4), Northern Explosion (season 10), Crimson Harvest (season 11). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cat Posted August 25, 2023 Members Share Posted August 25, 2023 It's clear Moonves is a horrible misogynist who couldn't bear to give a woman, an older woman at that, her due for keeping CBS ticking along for over a decade. Murder She Wrote was popular and he couldn't stand that. As we know, he was particularly active in dismantling CBS's most popular women-centric shows, and pushing bro-centric 'dead hooker of the week' television. I think he had a real problem with women with power and star appeal generally, and wanted to put them down a peg or 5. He didn't have the balls to cancel MSW outright, the complaints would have drowned the CBS call center, and so cowardly moved it to Thursdays so that he could hide behind an 'excuse.' As for the show itself, I often meet my parents for lunch on Sundays, and we are blessed with MSW reruns most of the day. I personally love the earlier seasons, and the middle seasons are when MSW were at their most classic and as I remember it. I understand why they moved Jessica to a NYC setting for the final season or so -- more organic story, because how many more people could get murdered in Cabot Cove?? But I missed the Cabot Cove setting and some of the regulars, and I'm glad the show dipped back to CC from time to time in that final year. @DaytimeFan I remember that Parker Stevens episode and how ambiguous they left it, and how creepy his character was at some points. There was the suggestion that he was trying to befriend her on purpose, for similar reasons as with his paramours. MSW played outside the box with that one and kept the viewers on their toes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted September 18, 2023 Members Share Posted September 18, 2023 ‘Murder, She Wrote’ Picket Planned For WGA Strike Thursday at Fox – Deadline 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaytimeFan Posted October 12, 2023 Members Share Posted October 12, 2023 Saw another one of those episodes that is darker and more sinister: Season 2, Episode 13, Trial By Error. Jessica is a jury foreperson and they work on determining the guilt of an accused. The ending is really good and show's Jessica's disgust. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Soapsuds Posted October 12, 2023 Members Share Posted October 12, 2023 One of my favorite episodes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted October 28, 2023 Members Share Posted October 28, 2023 (edited) Angela Rippon is a legend in the UK - I imagine Angela Lansbury would have enjoyed this. Edited October 28, 2023 by DRW50 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members I Am A Swede Posted October 28, 2023 Members Share Posted October 28, 2023 Wow, not bad at all, especially considering Angela (Rippon that is) turned 79 recently! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaytimeFan Posted October 28, 2023 Members Share Posted October 28, 2023 Angela Lansbury would have loved that. Well done to Angela Rippon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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