1 hour ago, KMan101 said:

Meanwhile, the show is so poorly produced on top of the whiplash writing ... Albert Alarr can't cut it. The cuts are bad. It's just not produced well at ALL. IMHO. It's just so bad. The sets are bad. Sigh. Almost everything seems to fall flat. The Charlie ending? SOOOO bad. And the followup? LMAO. Lord. A websoap could do better. And these one/two month arcs? Not working. Especially if the characters involved only appear 7 times a month.

I think most of the sets are okay. I liked Charlie's apartment, except for that big frosted window. They just need a few more sets lol John and Marlena's apartment has become the new blue room.

 

And you're right about bringing in a new co-EP. They don't spend what little money they have very wisely, and when they do, it's for stuff that most people aren't interested in. I know Corday's not going anywhere, but I think it's time for Alarr to pack it up. It might even be time for a new HW as well. I enjoyed most of last year, but now the show is messy again. The stories need to be tighter and more long running. These quick mini stories don't cut it. B&B has the same problem. Funny thing is GH is the exact opposite. Their long running storylines need to be wrapped up quicker.

Regarding MM: I think we would all be wise to refrain from commenting on her personality or what she needs or needs not to until we actually see what the exchange was

I have seen enough well-meaning but overzealous soap fans be absolutely inappropriate to performers on social media without even realizing that they are crossing all kinds of line to refuse to take her supposed bad reaction at face value simply based on hear-say.
Sorry but some fans really need to get their heads chewed out. Not saying it was the case here but commenting on an exchange we haven't seen feels a bit risky to me.

5 minutes ago, AbcNbc247 said:

. I enjoyed most of last year, but now the show is messy again. The stories need to be tighter and more long running. These quick mini stories don't cut it. 

Agree that pacing is all wrong AND often the opposite of what we would like to see. The Gwen story dragged on long after everyone had guessed where it was going and few are enjoying it while the Charlie murder story could have taken some more time to be better set up without complaints from the fans who appreciated the actor's work (with the caveat that the rape story itself actually lasted the right amount of time for me).

 

2 hours ago, KMan101 said:

I think we're past the point of recasting Shawn and Belle. If Cook had any interest he would have stuck around in 2015/2016. Kirsten couldn't run from DAYS fast enough. They aren't coming back.

 

Madison and Beemer are fine. I really don't get the hate for them. Could there have been more "exciting" people cast? Sure. But I think they're very likable in the roles and it's not like they're leads at this point anyway (even though they should be). Kirsten always grated on my nerves as Belle. I do miss Jason Cook, but I like Beemer. I do think both are capable of more but let's be honest, they haven't even been invested in Shawn and Belle to bother for over a decade. And anytime they gain some traction (like with Belle horny for Philip and Chloe/Shawn had some chemistry) they get dumped.

 

They're actually not that poorly received ... there's been a fairly large cry for both of them to be on the canvas, despite what ya'll think about them. Just saying.

 

Hey, we can always find Charity Rhamer. Maybe she looks younger than Martha Madison, would that make ya'll happy  lol 

 

I know we rehash ALOT as soap fans, but why is this being rehashed? I don't remember the bitching when they were pop ins. Now they're on contract it's a problem again? I'm so confused. I get liking certain actors in roles and not letting it go. I'll never shut up about Heather Tom/Amelia Heinle as Victoria. To each their own LOL. 

 

What it does tell me: the show isn't interesting enough if we're debating Martha and Brandon STILL. LMAO.

 

Meanwhile, the show is so poorly produced on top of the whiplash writing ... Albert Alarr can't cut it. The cuts are bad. It's just not produced well at ALL. IMHO. It's just so bad. The sets are bad. Sigh. Almost everything seems to fall flat. The Charlie ending? SOOOO bad. And the followup? LMAO. Lord. A websoap could do better. And these one/two month arcs? Not working. Especially if the characters involved only appear 7 times a month.

 

She's very very very defensive of the show, which I love her for. Sorry she was such a bitch to you. I can see that with her lol. I do appreciate how loyal she is to the show though.

 

I know it's probably hard as an actor when fans hate what they're seeing, but the fact is, actors need to understand, we don't always like everything  LOL ... there's a difference between bitching about a story and coming after an actor, which I see a lot of on Twitter and it's disgusting.

I agree completely with everything you said about Beemer and Madison. I’ve never understood all the hate. Neither one bothers me in the least and I’d prefer them on canvas than not and I don’t want anymore recasts.

52 minutes ago, AbcNbc247 said:

I think most of the sets are okay. I liked Charlie's apartment, except for that big frosted window. They just need a few more sets lol John and Marlena's apartment has become the new blue room.

 

And you're right about bringing in a new co-EP. They don't spend what little money they have very wisely, and when they do, it's for stuff that most people aren't interested in. I know Corday's not going anywhere, but I think it's time for Alarr to pack it up. It might even be time for a new HW as well. I enjoyed most of last year, but now the show is messy again. The stories need to be tighter and more long running. These quick mini stories don't cut it. B&B has the same problem. Funny thing is GH is the exact opposite. Their long running storylines need to be wrapped up quicker.

Charlie's place isn't bad. I can buy a young kid like Charlie living there. Now Nicole living in a tiny ass apartment. I can't buy. Or Mob Princess Ava living a tiny apartment. Xander. Sarah, Brady and Chloe living at the Salem Inn is laughable. Many of the characters need homes. Everyone living at the K & D mansion's. Or those ugly hotel rooms at the Salem Inn. Is a huge problem. Over at Titan Phillip and Xander share the same half ass office set. Charlie was the only Titan employee we ever saw. We will never see Gabi Chic. We haven't seen Abe in his home in years. Elani need a better place. Where they can raise the twins. I'm sick to death of HTS or the tiny park bench. The constant redressing of Jarlena's set is getting tiresome.

Edited February 25, 20214 yr by victoria foxton

4 minutes ago, victoria foxton said:

Charlie's place isn't bad. I can buy a young kid like Charlie living there. Now Nicole living in a tiny ass apartment. I can't buy. Or Mob Princess Ava living a tiny apartment. Xander. Sarah, Brady and Chloe living at the Salem Inn is laughable. Many of the characters need homes. Everyone living at the K & D mansion's. Or those ugly hotel rooms at the Salem Inn. Is a huge problem. Over at Titan Phillip and Xander share the same half ass office set. Charlie was the only Titan employee we ever saw. We will never see Gabi Chic. We haven't seen Abe in his home in years. Elani need a better place. Where they can raise the twins. I'm sick to death of HTS or the tiny park bench. The constant redressing of Jarlena's set is getting tiresome.

I don’t even remember what Abe and Lexie’s house looks like. Hope’s house becoming that awful tiny room is so so bad. Everyone living at Salem Inn is awful. All of these people have money but choose to live in hotels. It makes no sense. Every company has no employees outside of the cast.

51 minutes ago, FrenchBug82 said:

Regarding MM: I think we would all be wise to refrain from commenting on her personality or what she needs or needs not to until we actually see what the exchange was

I have seen enough well-meaning but overzealous soap fans be absolutely inappropriate to performers on social media without even realizing that they are crossing all kinds of line to refuse to take her supposed bad reaction at face value simply based on hear-say.
Sorry but some fans really need to get their heads chewed out. Not saying it was the case here but commenting on an exchange we haven't seen feels a bit risky to me.

 

 

I rest my case about them needing to spend their money much better lol

1 minute ago, Antoyne said:

I don’t even remember what Abe and Lexie’s house looks like.

Didn't they move into Roman and Marlena's old house?

51 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:

I mean, I laughed but, if that's the kind of material you sent her way, you're sort of making my point.

31 minutes ago, FrenchBug82 said:

I mean, I laughed but, if that's the kind of material you sent her way, you're sort of making my point.

Except he claims he didn't send it her way as he didn't tag her.

 

Either way... we all have bad days. I'm not sure MM getting nasty over one bad tweet represents her overall behavior.

5 hours ago, AbcNbc247 said:

I think most of the sets are okay. I liked Charlie's apartment, except for that big frosted window. They just need a few more sets lol John and Marlena's apartment has become the new blue room.

 

And you're right about bringing in a new co-EP. They don't spend what little money they have very wisely, and when they do, it's for stuff that most people aren't interested in. I know Corday's not going anywhere, but I think it's time for Alarr to pack it up. It might even be time for a new HW as well. I enjoyed most of last year, but now the show is messy again. The stories need to be tighter and more long running. These quick mini stories don't cut it. B&B has the same problem. Funny thing is GH is the exact opposite. Their long running storylines need to be wrapped up quicker.

 

I actually agree the sets have been better-ish. I thought about that after I wrote it. I'd still like better but I get the show has no budget and is doing what they can. It has improved there. It doesn't feel like everything takes place in Horton Town Square, the random park bench in the woods or the awful blue room LOL so ... I'm glad they slightly upgraded Eli and Lani's set after they brought the twins home. I liked Charlie's apartment set too and Ava's wasn't awful. 

 

John and Marlena's "townhouse" is awful looking, IMHO. Sorry. LOL. I STILL miss the old Penthouse. And Shawn and Belle (or Hope I guess) need better than a closet masquerading as a den. But props for trying to give us some different sets. 

 

I'm also not the biggest fan of the remodel they did of Julie's Place after the waste of time jump.

 

Agreed on the stories for all the soaps. The pacing is just all over the place. 

 

Yes on Alarr. He seems like a nice enough guy the cast likes, I guess (though I've heard mixed things on him), but I also don't think he's very strong. It shows on-screen, IMO. 

 

Also agreed on the HW. I'd really like to see Quan get a shot and Broderick with him, if she's interested. I have such mixed feelings on Uncle Ronald Carlivati. I appreciate some of the things he's done that I've wanted him to (Tony alive, Will alive, Jack alive; I don't hate the idea of Gwen; I like he's played on Broe/Phloe; Shelle and Lumi are around; he has some good ideas but the quick pacing, poor editing and lack of depth hurt), but he really makes me feel like I have whiplash at times and I think he goes too far to make it 'shocking' when it all ends up feeling pointless. I could go on, LOL. 

Edited February 26, 20214 yr by KMan101

1 hour ago, KMan101 said:

 

I actually agree the sets have been better-ish. I thought about that after I wrote it. I'd still like better but I get the show has no budget and is doing what they can. It has improved there. It doesn't feel like everything takes place in Horton Town Square, the random park bench in the woods or the awful blue room LOL so ... I'm glad they slightly upgraded Eli and Lani's set after they brought the twins home. I liked Charlie's apartment set too and Ava's wasn't awful. 

 

John and Marlena's "townhouse" is awful looking, IMHO. Sorry. LOL. I STILL miss the old Penthouse. And Shawn and Belle (or Hope I guess) need better than a closet masquerading as a den. But props for trying to give us some different sets. 

 

I'm also not the biggest fan of the remodel they did of Julie's Place after the waste of time jump.

 

Agreed on the stories for all the soaps. The pacing is just all over the place. 

 

Yes on Alarr. He seems like a nice enough guy the cast likes, I guess (though I've heard mixed things on him), but I also don't think he's very strong. It shows on-screen, IMO. 

 

Also agreed on the HW. I'd really like to see Quan get a shot and Broderick with him, if she's interested. I have such mixed feelings on Uncle Ronald Carlivati. I appreciate some of the things he's done that I've wanted him to (Tony alive, Will alive, Jack alive; I don't hate the idea of Gwen; I like he's played on Broe/Phloe; Shelle and Lumi are around; he has some good ideas but the quick pacing, poor editing and lack of depth hurt), but he really makes me feel like I have whiplash at times and I think he goes too far to make it 'shocking' when it all ends up feeling pointless. I could go on, LOL. 

I miss Marlena's penthouse so bad.  I would kill for that huge set back.  And the way she just randomly sold it when John was in a coma after all those years still hurts me.  I would not even complain if they re-dressed the old penthouse set for everything in town.

5 hours ago, AbcNbc247 said:

I rest my case about them needing to spend their money much better lol

Didn't they move into Roman and Marlena's old house?

The set was the same/similar but I don't think it was supposed to be Roman and Marlena's old house.  Speaking of, did they ever explain what Roman/Marlena did with that house?  Did they sell it?  Do they still own it? I know they owned it for awhile because Sami practically delivered Will there. Poor John probably paid more mortgage payments on it than either Roman or Marlena lol.

On 2/23/2021 at 12:17 PM, Gray Bunny said:

Agreed that Brady/Kristen should've just been a 2012-2013 thing with ED in the role and Brady being clueless. The fact they're making them, like, endgame or something is silly. 

 

BTW: According to @JAS0N47, Maggie is going to be off canvas for awhile as Suzanne Rogers is taking a break. I wonder how long? 

 

On 2/23/2021 at 7:31 PM, Khan said:

Suzanne Rogers is taking a break?  I hope she's okay.  Maggie isn't the character she used to be, but I'd hate to think SR was ill or something.

 

I hope she's well and that the break is her choice. Maggie is one of those characters I would not want to lose. 

15 hours ago, FrenchBug82 said:

Beemer isn't thin at all. It is just his bone structure that is so defined that makes him look gaunt if you choose to look at him that way.
I mean, tastes will vary but I don't think anyone can plausibly say he is not a good-looking man even if he is not your type.

I agree. I don’t know what universe people are in when they don’t call Brandon Beemer good looking.

 

Andyou know, we just went through all this negative talk about Martha Madison a few short month ago, didn’t we? I don’t think the girl gets that kind of airtime to deserve all this negativity, frankly. I think she’s fine in the role.