19 hours ago, ranger1rg said:

That’s not what I said, and you know it. The episodes from the first couple years don’t represent what the show became or is known for. The show’s history is not there — not in production or acting. 
 

I watched those eps out of curiosity, believing they’d be interesting, and good. I was bored. I think you have to go to the late ‘70s  to see the good stuff.

 

But thanks for the snark. 

 

The early years were known and applauded for their lush, rich production values (sets, music, lighting, etc.), and while some of the cast was "green" at the beginning, most of them had remarkable on-screen charisma and were quite talented (Janice Lynde, Trish Stewart, Julianna McCarthey among others). I'd say that it was only in the late 1970s that the show started to flounder somewhat.

 

Where any sort of art is concerned, it's not possible to please and appeal to every viewer. What bores one person mesmerizes another.

 

When Charita Bauer was playing out Bert's amputation story on The Guiding Light, someone said to me that it was a mistake to giver her a major story because, "Nobody in the audience wants to see that! We want to watch young, sexy people having romances and adventure!" Bert's story was the last plot I enjoyed on that show for YEARS. To each his own. 

Edited May 15, 20205 yr by vetsoapfan

On 5/13/2020 at 12:41 PM, Chris B said:

I was worried that the 1981 episode would do badly and it would scare them away from airing such old episodes, but it tied GH for #1 and had 2.2 million viewers! Hopefully they take some of the half hour episodes and show them. 

They could so easily air some of the 70's episodes in full, which is roughly 22min and use the remaining air time to interview some of the people from that time period, and actually celebrate Y&R's early years. Which also helps younger viewers understand what was going on and who the characters are

Edited May 14, 20205 yr by will81

2 hours ago, will81 said:

They could so easily air some of the 70's episodes in full, which is roughly 22min and use the remaining air time to interview some of the people from that time period, and actually celebrate Y&R's early years. Which also helps younger viewers understand what was going on and who the characters are

I think that’s the key part of the classic episodes that is missing: context. The intros don’t really provide enough of it. I’d hate to see these beautiful episodes marred by the VH1 Pop-Up Video treatment, but even things like highlighting Dennis Haysbert’s appearance would be nice. Bravo does a decent job with their annotated Housewives episodes; their pop-ups are pretty unobtrusive.

 

But... the timing was a bitch. I’m sure they scrambled to even get these on the air. History and getting talent to do interviews, even on Zoom and everyone’s schedules freed up, takes time. Maybe they can coordinate some of that for future episodes, especially if this becomes more protracted.

48 minutes ago, Faulkner said:

I think that’s the key part of the classic episodes that is missing: context. The intros don’t really provide enough of it. I’d hate to see these beautiful episodes marred by the VH1 Pop-Up Video treatment, but even things like highlighting Dennis Haysbert’s appearance would be nice. Bravo does a decent job with their annotated Housewives episodes; their pop-ups are pretty unobtrusive.

 

But... the timing was a bitch. I’m sure they scrambled to even get these on the air. History and getting talent to do interviews, even on Zoom and everyone’s schedules freed up, takes time. Maybe they can coordinate some of that for future episodes, especially if this becomes more protracted.

What if they put all of the background info for each episode online and blast it on social media? In the afternoon, they could post on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, etc. sort of a "fact file" with everything you need to know to jump into the following day's repeat. A simple graphic that lets you know who the characters will be and what their stories were at the time. After the episode airs, they could post a "here's what happened next" type of thing.

I wonder how much of Y&R from the '70s was actually saved by CBS?  All of it?  Some of it?  I've never heard one way or the other, but have heard that certain other soaps, especially from the early days, have been lost forever.

Mary Williams!!!

22 minutes ago, All My Shadows said:

What if they put all of the background info for each episode online and blast it on social media? In the afternoon, they could post on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, etc. sort of a "fact file" with everything you need to know to jump into the following day's repeat. A simple graphic that lets you know who the characters will be and what their stories were at the time. After the episode airs, they could post a "here's what happened next" type of thing.

Totally. That would be next best thing, and there would be a 360 experience online to increase their social media followers. Or in lieu of pop ups, they could promote more live tweets for viewers to follow along with the writers or actors who could share more info about the stories and who’s who (although that’s a bit trickier with varying timeslots in the different markets, but that never stopped primetime live tweets, where the West Coast often gets screwed over).

One of the complaints I see from the smaaaall minority of naysayers is that they’ve seen these episodes before and have no need to see again. Having some extras and maybe some BTS secrets revealed would also freshen them up. 

 

29 minutes ago, trainman said:

I wonder how much of Y&R from the '70s was actually saved by CBS?  All of it?  Some of it?  I've never heard one way or the other, but have heard that certain other soaps, especially from the early days, have been lost forever.

The entire runs of Y&R, DAYS, GH, and B&B are were/are saved & archived by their production companies. CBS would've wiped the early years of Y&R forty years ago if they could've saved fifty cents. Just ask ABC.

1 minute ago, Faulkner said:

One of the complaints I see from the smaaaall minority of naysayers is that they’ve seen these episodes before and have no need to see again. Having some extras and maybe some BTS secrets revealed would also freshen them up. 

I think those people just have to suck it up lol At this point, it’s reruns or nothing at all. They’ve graciously seen the light and pulled out episodes from over a 30-year span instead of just encores from the last year. Those people should be thankful that we’re getting episodes that they’ve already seen 20+ years ago instead of just two months ago.
 

God, I remember being terrified at the sound of Victor’s angry voice back when EB really cared enough to actually participate in scenes. 

Just now, mikelyons said:

The entire runs of Y&R, DAYS, GH, and B&B are were/are saved & archived by their production companies. CBS would've wiped the early years of Y&R forty years ago if they could've saved fifty cents. Just ask ABC.

GH is still there up until 1970, I believe. Once ABC completely took over production, they wiped until 1977-1978.

 

P&G and ABC need their asses whooped for what they did.

1 minute ago, mikelyons said:

The entire runs of Y&R, DAYS, GH, and B&B are were/are saved & archived by their production companies. CBS would've wiped the early years of Y&R forty years ago if they could've saved fifty cents. Just ask ABC.

 

LOL.  Good to know.

3 minutes ago, All My Shadows said:

I think those people just have to suck it up lol At this point, it’s reruns or nothing at all. They’ve graciously seen the light and pulled out episodes from over a 30-year span instead of just encores from the last year. Those people should be thankful that we’re getting episodes that they’ve already seen 20+ years ago instead of just two months ago.
 

God, I remember being terrified at the sound of Victor’s angry voice back when EB really cared enough to actually participate in scenes. 

 

There is so much I missed from the early years, or would love to see again.  An episode or two of Victor's bomb shelter basement being one of them.

4 minutes ago, All My Shadows said:

I think those people just have to suck it up lol At this point, it’s reruns or nothing at all. They’ve graciously seen the light and pulled out episodes from over a 30-year span instead of just encores from the last year. Those people should be thankful that we’re getting episodes that they’ve already seen 20+ years ago instead of just two months ago.

I agree. I’m not saying those people need to be catered to. It would just be an additional benefit to having the episodes updated with extras (interviews, informative pop-ups that aren’t intrusive, etc.), which would just be helpful for newer viewers or those of us with shorter memories.

1999: I forgot that Jill and Malcolm were friends and that Jill at one point probably had the hots for Malcolm, wanting him to be the model for one of her campaigns on the men’s line. I hated Jabot dropped their whole men’s line later on. 

Jill getting down Malcolm’s pants would have been hotter than whatever she and Ryan had 😁

If they're going to show earlier 30-min episodes, which they probably won't. They could consider showing two consecutive episodes to fill the hour timeslot. Of course these would have to be edited for time, but so are the hour episodes that don't fit into the current run time. I like the idea others have mentioned of having better introductions to the episodes and even including some pop up tidbits to make following the story easier or just some interesting facts.

 

 

Edited May 14, 20205 yr by GLATWT88

All I can think about in these Malcolm scenes is that Shemar probably taped them shortly after having the honor of Susan’s Emmy win

They were still using original 1973 cues as late as 1999???

 

You don't begin to understand the power of Victor Newman.

 

I WILL CRUSH YOU!

 

Skipping tomorrow's 2014 episode.