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Anita had a career that required her to be on the road regularly, especially if we are to believe the Articulettes are inspired by the Motown groups of the 60s and 70s. Those groups were doing shows constantly. Vernon also did plenty of work that required his time away - not far fetched to believe that extramarital situations took place. It would also open up to the possibility of a Dupree son, which is desperately needed IMO. I still think it should have been Martin.

Matriarchs are such a cornerstone of soap opera that it's unsurprising that so much care and attention has been put into developing Anita's character. Although, there were a few months there that I felt she was being underutilized. I do think that Vernon needs to be allowed his own space within this soap to be fully utilized. They have given him a lot of background - civil rights activist, politician, lecturer at a prestigious institution. However, that can only go so far when there are no sets to really cater to that type of storytelling. As of now, we know the Wonder Twins, Izaiah, and Vernon are all connected to Banneker. I think Bill went to Banneker considering the pillow on his office couch. I don't know if a college hall set would lend itself to being a good set, but it would give us another side to Vernon. On another note, I do find it interesting how often the writers have had Donnell and Deanna drinking in their last few appearances. Firstly, are they of age? You're usually of age when you are a college junior/senior, I assumed both were younger but I may be wrong. Also, Gen Z isn't really drinking like that.

I didn't understand Madison's reasoning for telling Chelsea they needed to call off the wedding, besides the fact that it was dramatic as hell. She did mention that a lawsuit can impact Chelsea and her businesses if they were married, but a) she was yet to get any legal advice on the matter and b) you would think she was getting married next week not a year from now. I wish that maybe they had written it so Madison's mom had recorded her and posted some of her comments out of context.

I am happy that the Anita cancer story is leading to a resolution. As nicely done as it was, it was such a heavy topic that I am glad it won't extend for too long. TT did an amazing job, but that's unsurprising. The thing with soaps is, no matter how bad an actor, you do in some ways get attached. Reading the comments about AA being dropped to recurring did make me feel a bit, albeit very tiny bit, sad. I will get over it the moment he is gone though. I still feel if BTG wanted to stoop low a la Reva's clone they could have made a big reveal that AA was actually an AI robot. He wouldn't have to change is acting a bit. Lynette/Hayley/Randy is heating up and I am here for it.

Lol...why am I being asked this again. I don't know who is hating. I only post here. I used to see a comment or another on Twitter, but this is strictly where I get my BTG info and commentary. My response with the Teresa gif was a reaction to another poster saying that people are hating, but too bad because BTG got picked up for 2 seasons. I was celebrating that.

No idea. It was a response to LC's comment that people are hating - no one on here from my POV. I think this board has very fair and open discussion and members express their likes and dislikes in a way that isn't rude or insulting. IMO of course. If people are hating, let them hate. I am enjoying BTG very much.

I haven't watched today, but I am surprised Randy and Hayley are getting lax considering that Tomas is catching on and Lynette and Joey threatening to expose or derail their plans. But you're right about Randy and Hayley not being the brightest con artists despite having pulled this same stunt multiple times successfully. Too bad Wonder Twins is taken already, because that would be a fantastic nickname for Hayley and Randy's idiotic selves.

Y'all be hyping Donnell's acting up and it ain't all that. Even when he was doing that weird tongue thing some of you were singing praises. Meanwhile, he is decent but it can still read amateurish to me quite often. Again, this isn't my calling for a recast. He is just fine, but I do not think he is some amazing actor.

I think they explained on an episode that the BRCA gene can't skip a generation, so if your children don't have it then your grandkids can't inherit the gene. That was why Kat and Martin didn't have to get tested after all, because Nicole wasn't a carrier. Dani's kids had to get tested, because she had it.

I am finally caught up on last week's episodes. I will say I preferred the second half of the week over the first. The episodes IMO were a bit more entertaining. I think Darlene is a great addition, but I can say that for all the new additions like Lynette. Even Izaiah has grown on me a bit more. I'm ok with Naomi and Jacob's situation, but I totally get what you are saying. However, look at what we got from Chelsea and Madison as well as Tomas and Kat. I do wish Martin and Smitty were dating instead of married with children. It would have opened them to a lot more story wise that maybe writers on a daytime soap don't want to touch being they are a "safe" representation of gay relationships - monogamous, faithful, family men.

Well babes, I am living for this comment...gave me a good chuckle.

I have grown to like Hayley so much more since her true intentions were finally revealed. I crack up every time she gets annoyed, even more so with the goody two-shoes like Naomi and Ashley. Something so satisfying about seeing her disgust and their sympathy or concern. Like mind your business. I don't want your performative acts of pity.

I am holding onto faith that this cotillion storyline will be explosive and will actually be the convergence of several storylines with a big climax. Here's hoping @Taoboi theory about May is correct and we get what we have been waiting for, otherwise these stories seem to be spinning their wheels - lots of exposition but not actually going anywhere. @DramatistDreamer I get what you are saying about not seeing all those scenes leading up to the cotillion and that would have been lovely to see because it is something this soap is severely lacking - showing not telling. However, budgets are not what they once were so I am being hopeful they may be saving their pennies to really make this cotillion eventful for viewers by pulling all the stops. I just don't want to get too hopeful and be let down like Winterfest which was a total bust.

That would be good soap. Doug confronting her ass at the cotillion and making it known to all of high society what trash she really is. Then Vanessa would have to claw her way back into the gates - might have to make good with Hayley and Leslie otherwise.

Vanessa playing Joey seems unlikely from everything that went down. I only did think it was possible around the time Doug died, because I, at the time, didn't think Doug was dead. I assumed he had been tipped off by Randy and either he or Doug told Vanessa. Then, Vanessa had to keep up the act while Doug plotted revenge. However, as already mentioned as more time has gone on, it does seem less likely that Doug is plotting some comeback to bring down Joey.

I have held onto the idea that Doug isn't dead from the beginning. There was no body and everything around it seemed rushed from the accident to the funeral. My assumption was that either Doug was tipped off by Randy and is plotting to get revenge. I also at one point thought Doug and Vanessa might be in on it together to take down Joey, but the way Nasty 'Nessa has been acting it would be hard to believe.

Does she? Maybe I am biased, but I feel like Kat is usually initiating the bad blood between them. Well aside from Eva sleeping with her man.. oop

I am so glad that Kat got someone new to Nancy Drew, because I actually enjoyed the character and totally understood her POV, but she became a little less likable to me when she kept going after Eva every chance she got when Eva was essentially ignoring her. I am all for Kat not liking Eva and feeling hurt that the rest of her family seems to have forgotten everything she did so quickly, but the petty and incessant jabs is giving obsessed and Kat shouldn't be that girl. Wasn't his mother addicted to plastic surgery and that's what essentially did her in - bad surgery? I agree with @ranger1rg and I see a few other members posted the same sentiments as well. As I was watching it, I did feel uneasy about the way that Eva was essentially painting Joey as this savior. We don't have the full picture yet as to why there is so much resentment between Izaiah and his dad or why Joey of all people would be so invested in his well being. However, it makes little sense that Joey of all people was the only one invested in him. As was already mentioned, it seemed like Izaiah struggled to fit in with his family's ideals and his dad's expectations so he rebelled. Yet, he had a mother and brothers who seemed to care for him. My hope is that Joey isn't as innocent as they are painting him and the only reason he invested in Izaiah was because he allowed him some sort of connection to Elon. I hate to say this but it is giving artist to close to art again. I feel like someone may be too fond of Jon and they writing is going somewhere that is problematic. Not because a white man helped a young black kid get his life together, but because it is painting his black family members as unwilling, incompetent, or even absent when that is not the case.

Yes! I was like come on Kat let's see you dig up that dirt on Lynette and Hayley. It was fun.

I'm glad Kat has something to do besides hate on Eva and be jealous of Chelsea. She was becoming insufferable as someone who is miserable in her own life so has to be mad and petty at others. Also, the romance with Tomas just isn't there. Tomas just needs to be her monotone gay best friend that works at her uncle's firm - I'm over his ass. Now, Kat can go on and do her little Nancy Drew-ing and put two and two together on Hayley since Bill can't seem to figure it out. Naomi is just dumb. I get she misses her man, but do you want him killed? The fact you are getting a response on a burner should suffice. Martin (Lawrence) and (Will) Smitty are supposed to be giving relationship drama, but I really don't care. Maybe that can blow up at the cotillion too.

I can't really speak to that as I personally don't know any TV writers, soap or otherwise. However, from the creative output that continues to come out and flourish in other mediums, I would say that creativity is still pretty high. Soaps seem to have stagnated long ago for a number of reasons I am not going to outline here now. I want to preface this next part by saying that I thank MVJ for putting a new soap on our screens, in particular on network TV in this century. If you had ask me even a few years ago, before the announcement of BTG, I would have told you with certainty that a new soap would never see the light of day on network TV ever nor would a soap in a traditional format ever see life on streaming either. She has done something unprecedented in many ways. Furthermore, I do not think MVJ should be kicked off her show or be let go of or whatever the conversation was in previous pages. I honestly don't even know what that whole conversation was about since I am usually catching up these days and tend to skim many comments so don't always get the full picture. Now, I do think MVJ is an artist that may be too close to her art. Hence, why we have characters that probably should have been let go for lack of craft (AA), other characters that seem to have gone "safe" when they were originally presented with more of an edge, and then others that seem to face no consequence at all. I think AA is self-explanatory. As for character being safe, Bill is one that comes to mind. At first, Bill was painted a lot more ruthless. He was actually quite vicious with making Dani and the Duprees attend his wedding - even the way he went about it was vindicative and dark. Now, he is a whole big teddy bear who is easily duped by his barbie wife. We hardly seen him question her off behavior and while I do think we are headed that way, it would have been nice to see it build over time. Then, we have characters like Leslie who roam around interacting with everyone like they don't already believe she tried to kill Laura. Leslie should have gone away for some time by now and this coming from one who thinks TMG is brilliant, but her having no redemption yet and just going around town acting crazy is wearing thin. She is also all over the place. One day she seems like a vindictive lunatic and the next she is running around begging people for favors. I can see how venturing on this new and exciting thing can make everyone feel like family. These people have all created a bond, but its business not personal and sometimes you have to let people go and wish them the best elsewhere...looking at AA.

I can respect that, but it is no longer the 60s or 70s. Viewers are more conditioned to watching TV, we know what to expect and can "read the room" more quickly. It is part of the reason that scenes in film and TV have also shortened and well attention span plays a role as well. I feel like pacing is a big issue as was mentioned above and some stories are played out in a way that by the time they peak, I don't care as much or at all anymore.

Just finished Friday's episode and one thing that confuses me about Leslie's shouse remodel is how tacky and garrish it all sounds. This is a gated community we are talking about. Surely there are stricter rules around construction and the appearance of homes. How did she even get any of it approved?