On 9/24/2019 at 12:42 PM, Gray Bunny said:

 

I'd have to disagree about Desperate Housewives, because the 5 year jump aged up Lynette's children (thus providing storyline they wouldn't have had in their junior high years), it gave Gabi two young children (without going through pregnancy/early years)  that weren't cookie-cutter princesses, plus it gave us a new mystery about the car crash (Susan & Mike) that took the lives of that one dude's kids (the guy who married Edie).  Even after the murder mystery, it allowed storylines to develop for all the housewives' now-grown kids for the remaining 4 seasons. 

 

Yep. It did open up a lot of new avenues (even if it also somewhat killed momentum and the show struggled initially to 'restart' itself and find its footing).

On 9/25/2019 at 5:11 PM, Vee said:

Again: If you remember the same person who claimed they had a series bible in which Billie Reed, dressed as Catwoman, tried to hypnotically seduce Hope in the shower to live a polyamorous life with her and Bo, you know who likely wrote this fanfic.

I need to read this Bible!

On 9/25/2019 at 6:10 PM, Soapsuds said:

And CM and RSW needing body doubles? pleasssssssssssssss.....ridiculous 

 

This guy needs a body double...right....

 

Just an ass double. 

17 hours ago, ReddFoxx said:

It's not surprising that Sarah will supposedly steal Kristen's baby, because that's a story that is a repetitive go to. At least they aren't having Kristen steal a baby because that's too predictable.

 

Agreed. Still it's far more interesting having Sarah steal Kristen's baby than the other way around. Again, there's an opportunity to shave Kristen's twirly mustache. If they want to keep Kristen on canvas, they've got to give her more shades. It's just been so harsh - though some of her post-mansion move-in scenes have been better. 

On 10/30/2019 at 8:04 PM, AlexElizabeth said:

I'd rather see that than boring Sarah actually having Eric's baby. Maybe she'll finally be interesting.

 

THIS!

If the Sarah/Kristen spoiler is true... I hope they somehow incorporate Sarah finding out Kristen planned to steal her baby... but no matter what, this is an extreme twist for a character RC has seemingly been desperate to position as the show's young lead heroine in a post-Abigail Salem.  That's the problem with him... he takes things way too far and then there's no way to backtrack (OLTL's Marty, GH's Johnny, etc.).  I really like Linsey Godfrey, and now that she's out of that stupid triangle with Eric/"Rex," I even like Sarah (esp. with Xander)... but the character needs a shot in the arm, but making her mental and steal a baby is not necessary, lol.

This show (and the current writer) has a nasty habit of taking characters to the extreme dark side (Ben, Claire, Andre, Jordan, even Brady to a lesser extent) and then expect to be able to backtrack, and the good characters in town and us, the audience, are expected to just go along with it.  At least they kept true to reality by having Eve Donovan go to any lengths in her power to get revenge on Ben for killing her daughter. 

20 minutes ago, Gray Bunny said:

This show (and the current writer) has a nasty habit of taking characters to the extreme dark side (Ben, Claire, Andre, Jordan, even Brady to a lesser extent) and then expect to be able to backtrack, and the good characters in town and us, the audience, are expected to just go along with it.  At least they kept true to reality by having Eve Donovan go to any lengths in her power to get revenge on Ben for killing her daughter. 

Those are the two biggest weapons in Ron's arsenal: unhinged females and redeeming the irredeemable (especially if they're a handsome man)

Edited November 1, 20196 yr by AbcNbc247

Except...Ron Carlivati hasn't really redeemed Ben, has he?  He's just made Ciara go around Salem, telling everyone (and us) that he's changed and we're jus jellus.

2 hours ago, Khan said:

Except...Ron Carlivati hasn't really redeemed Ben, has he?  He's just made Ciara go around Salem, telling everyone (and us) that he's changed and we're jus jellus.

He also rescues Ciara so others will say oh look Ben is a good guy.

11 hours ago, Gray Bunny said:

This show (and the current writer) has a nasty habit of taking characters to the extreme dark side (Ben, Claire, Andre, Jordan, even Brady to a lesser extent) and then expect to be able to backtrack, and the good characters in town and us, the audience, are expected to just go along with it.  At least they kept true to reality by having Eve Donovan go to any lengths in her power to get revenge on Ben for killing her daughter. 

I don’t think Ron is who made Ben a serial killer. I’m almost positive that was a regime or two ago cause Guy Wilson was still playing Will.

7 minutes ago, Antoyne said:

He also rescues Ciara so others will say oh look Ben is a good guy.

I don’t think Ron is who made Ben a serial killer. I’m almost positive that was a regime or two ago cause Guy Wilson was still playing Will.

 

It was Josh Griffith & Dena Higley.

11 hours ago, Antoyne said:

He also rescues Ciara so others will say oh look Ben is a good guy.

 

Which is why I hereby endorse a powerful and timely story about Ben physically abusing Ciara.  Now THAT, IMO, would make Hope snap out of her current Princess Gina funk.

Here are some spoilers from Daytime Royalty and soaps.com that will happen after the time jump:

 

From Daytime Royalty:

 

Ben shares his woes with a surprising confidante. Sonny is going to get acquainted with Evan, who will be Rafe's new nanny. Nicole and Sarah share their guilt over a deception. Gabi tells Eli that she thinks that Chad is plotting against her. Kristen talks about the incident that caused her to leave Salem and Kayla heads home for a romantic evening.

 

From soaps.com

 

Chad and Abigail will return. Eric will realize that JJ Is high, Princess Gina will have a shocking new companion, She will also make a move on John, Ciara tells Victor she has given up on Ben, and Chad will tell Abigail that he has been in contact with Stefano. Also, Gabi will tell Eli she thinks that Chad is plotting against her. 

 

I think that a lot of these spoilers sound interesting. I wonder if the person that Ben confides in is indeed Will. Maybe the rumors about him being prison are true. Also, I think that Evan being Rafe's nanny is interesting, and I wonder if the rumors about him being John and Marlena's son are true. It looks like Kristen left town (maybe because her baby was stolen), which could also tie into Nicole and Sarah sharing guilt over a deception. Maybe they are feeling guilty over stealing/knowing Kristen's baby was stolen. And maybe JJ turns back to doing drugs again to cope with Jen being in the coma. 

Edited November 2, 20196 yr by xtr

I realllly hope they bring back Rory if JJ is getting high again.

 

The spoilers all sound interesting but I don't want to get excited because I'm sure it'll all be executed terribly.

On 11/2/2019 at 9:08 AM, xtr said:

Here are some spoilers from Daytime Royalty and soaps.com that will happen after the time jump:

 

From Daytime Royalty:

 

Ben shares his woes with a surprising confidante. Sonny is going to get acquainted with Evan, who will be Rafe's new nanny. Nicole and Sarah share their guilt over a deception. Gabi tells Eli that she thinks that Chad is plotting against her. Kristen talks about the incident that caused her to leave Salem and Kayla heads home for a romantic evening.

 

From soaps.com

 

Chad and Abigail will return. Eric will realize that JJ Is high, Princess Gina will have a shocking new companion, She will also make a move on John, Ciara tells Victor she has given up on Ben, and Chad will tell Abigail that he has been in contact with Stefano. Also, Gabi will tell Eli she thinks that Chad is plotting against her. 

 

I think that a lot of these spoilers sound interesting. I wonder if the person that Ben confides in is indeed Will. Maybe the rumors about him being prison are true. Also, I think that Evan being Rafe's nanny is interesting, and I wonder if the rumors about him being John and Marlena's son are true. It looks like Kristen left town (maybe because her baby was stolen), which could also tie into Nicole and Sarah sharing guilt over a deception. Maybe they are feeling guilty over stealing/knowing Kristen's baby was stolen. And maybe JJ turns back to doing drugs again to cope with Jen being in the coma. 

 

as ott a lot of that twitter acct's spoilers were, I think a lot of it was true - Will going to prison, Will+Ben in prison, Sonny getting with Evan, etc. I think most of that stuff is true. It would be sooooooo Ron to make a triangle with Ciara/Ben/Will - 3 very popular, younger characters on the show. They would make Ben only show his good guy/be better Ben to Ciara, while Ben gets to be his "real, dark" self with Will or some mess. 🙄🤣

On 11/2/2019 at 12:08 PM, xtr said:

Here are some spoilers from Daytime Royalty and soaps.com that will happen after the time jump:

 

From Daytime Royalty:

 

Ben shares his woes with a surprising confidante. Sonny is going to get acquainted with Evan, who will be Rafe's new nanny. Nicole and Sarah share their guilt over a deception. Gabi tells Eli that she thinks that Chad is plotting against her. Kristen talks about the incident that caused her to leave Salem and Kayla heads home for a romantic evening.

 

From soaps.com

 

Chad and Abigail will return. Eric will realize that JJ Is high, Princess Gina will have a shocking new companion, She will also make a move on John, Ciara tells Victor she has given up on Ben, and Chad will tell Abigail that he has been in contact with Stefano. Also, Gabi will tell Eli she thinks that Chad is plotting against her. 

 

I think that a lot of these spoilers sound interesting. I wonder if the person that Ben confides in is indeed Will. Maybe the rumors about him being prison are true. Also, I think that Evan being Rafe's nanny is interesting, and I wonder if the rumors about him being John and Marlena's son are true. It looks like Kristen left town (maybe because her baby was stolen), which could also tie into Nicole and Sarah sharing guilt over a deception. Maybe they are feeling guilty over stealing/knowing Kristen's baby was stolen. And maybe JJ turns back to doing drugs again to cope with Jen being in the coma. 

I think they are both in Jail but they are friends not Prison lovers as rumored elsewhere

The Nanny is rumored to be Bi and shows intrest in Ciara/Sonny/Will 

9 hours ago, AlexElizabeth said:

I realllly hope they bring back Rory if JJ is getting high again.

 

The spoilers all sound interesting but I don't want to get excited because I'm sure it'll all be executed terribly.

Yes To Rory & JJ again