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4 hours ago, Soapsuds said:

It was a 100.000 total viewers bump....an increase but not that big and one that will erode again very soon. 

I better face that she's gone.........

 

 


it has gotten the biggest ratings bump since April, and you still can't give it one due because of the acting and Hillary's exit. why? I mean really...why?

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1 hour ago, Faulkner said:

Totally. Those two characters have a complicated history, especially considering Lily spent years dating Phyllis’s son.

 

Somehow we get 30 references a week to John Abbott, yet we can’t get a single Dru mention even when it’s germane to the story. 

 

There also should've been a LOT more anger between Neil (who has never totally approved of Cane) & Cane, Shauna & Charlie (who acted like a coward & blamed her for telling the truth), Charlie & Mattie (since he constantly covered for her & Reed) and Charlie & both his parents (for hating Shauna/pressuring him to lie).

 

Nate should've also been MUCH more upset given he knows firsthand how even the most loving parents can make major mistakes AND how it feels to lose a parent to a tragic traffic accident.

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5 hours ago, Soapsuds said:

It was a 100.000 total viewers bump....an increase but not that big and one that will erode again very soon. 

I better face that she's gone.........

 

 

I still have time since I am behind but...yes.

 

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I thought we got more good scenes today with the Winters family. I think that the Standout today was Christel. She did a really nice job displaying Lily's shock and guilt over learning she ran the red light. Bryton did a nice job as well. Devon did deserve to know the truth, though I do not like Shauna's disrespectful tone and attitude.

 

And Phyllis was definitely annoying. I'm glad that Jack got her out of the penthouse when he did, because she would have tried to overshadow Devon's grief, with her OTT, hypocritical behavior.  I think that she herself is going to be exposed soon, for all the secrets she is knowingly keeping, my guess might be at Sharon's/Nick's wedding. 

 

I liked Neil trying to get the family to stay together and I also liked Mattie's reaction.She seemed like she cared about the family as a whole. I liked how she wanted the truth to be known but wasn't really attacking anybody. Things are understandably heated with the family., but it's nice to see a few of the Winters acting level-headed and trying to keep the peace.

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5 hours ago, DeeeDee said:

 

There also should've been a LOT more anger between Neil (who has never totally approved of Cane) & Cane, Shauna & Charlie (who acted like a coward & blamed her for telling the truth), Charlie & Mattie (since he constantly covered for her & Reed) and Charlie & both his parents (for hating Shauna/pressuring him to lie).

 

Nate should've also been MUCH more upset given he knows firsthand how even the most loving parents can make major mistakes AND how it feels to lose a parent to a tragic traffic accident.

 

Will no one throw what neil did to Hilary in his face. There has been mention how Hilary and Devon hurt him every day in this story but no mention of what he did to her. This omission is a prime example of why Neil is currently an irrelevant character. 

 

Nate isn't defined by his father's death. You know, some we knew and cared about and watched evolve then devolve whose death we dealt with. No, that'd make too much sense. He's defined by some lost love Caroline whom we never met that died offscreen. I'd give quite a bit to know why and what story was planned for him that the show had to rewrite cause of Mishael's exit. Have they even mentioned Malcolm? Nate is Neil's nephew but then he's not. This connection doesn't work without mentioning how he's neil's nephew but I don't think they have. 

 

 

 

3 hours ago, xtr said:

I thought we got more good scenes today with the Winters family. I think that the Standout today was Christel. She did a really nice job displaying Lily's shock and guilt over learning she ran the red light. Bryton did a nice job as well. Devon did deserve to know the truth, though I do not like Shauna's disrespectful tone and attitude.

 

And Phyllis was definitely annoying. I'm glad that Jack got her out of the penthouse when he did, because she would have tried to overshadow Devon's grief, with her OTT, hypocritical behavior.  I think that she herself is going to be exposed soon, for all the secrets she is knowingly keeping, my guess might be at Sharon's/Nick's wedding. 

 

I liked Neil trying to get the family to stay together and I also liked Mattie's reaction.She seemed like she cared about the family as a whole. I liked how she wanted the truth to be known but wasn't really attacking anybody. Things are understandably heated with the family., but it's nice to see a few of the Winters acting level-headed and trying to keep the peace.

 

GTs performance left a lot to be desired during Phyllis outburst. Maybe it was the direction and staging that made it come off as out of place in the scene. 

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22 minutes ago, ajsp35801 said:

 

Will no one throw what neil did to Hilary in his face. There has been mention how Hilary and Devon hurt him every day in this story but no mention of what he did to her. This omission is a prime example of why Neil is currently an irrelevant character. 

 

Nate isn't defined by his father's death. You know, some we knew and cared about and watched evolve then devolve whose death we dealt with. No, that'd make too much sense. He's defined by some lost love Caroline whom we never met that died offscreen. I'd give quite a bit to know why and what story was planned for him that the show had to rewrite cause of Mishael's exit. Have they even mentioned Malcolm? Nate is Neil's nephew but then he's not. This connection doesn't work without mentioning how he's neil's nephew but I don't think they have. 

 

 

 

For some reason, the show has chosen to refer to Nate as Neil's godson. He's Neil's nephew via marriage to Nate's biological aunt Dru, but they seem to want to ignore that aspect for some reason.

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11 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said:

 

+1.

Also speaks a lot to how many people wanted to tune in because they knew that this was their last chance to see this particular actress and this particular pairing on the show.

 

I do think that many #Hevon fans likely pressured Mal to give Hilary her due in her exit storyline.  I think he was made to feel the weight of their expectations and knew he had to deliver if he had any hopes of retaining viewers (although, he likely won't) after MiM's departure.  Over the weekend, I read quite a few tweets from viewers claiming they intended tune out after Hilary was gone.  It's unclear to me how many truly mean it though.  I'd guess that some do.

 

I think Mal has been feeling the pressure from falling ratings for awhile, so I don’t think the pressure was any worse than usual.

 

It’s clear to me he was a Mishael Morgan fan, and didn’t want her to leave. Her exit did get him and the writers to do really nice work, and the past couple weeks have been great. The service scenes from yesterday and today were great stuff, and the actors nailed it. I thought Briton And CK were particularly strong.

 

For me, Gina Tognoni overplayed Phyllis’ reaction to the accident. She was almost hysterical, and it was too much. Phyllis can be strong without being out of control.

I haven’t been a Shauna fan, but the actress has been really good these past few days.

 

 

6 hours ago, Roman said:


it has gotten the biggest ratings bump since April, and you still can't give it one due because of the acting and Hillary's exit. why? I mean really...why?

 

I agree with you. If we’re going to criticize ratings drops, we should celebrate an increase and a 3 month high. Of course there will be a drop after an emotional exit story. The hope is that at least some of those viewers stick around. I think the ratings news is good news.

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9 hours ago, ranger1rg said:

 

I think Mal has been feeling the pressure from falling ratings for awhile, so I don’t think the pressure was any worse than usual.

 

It’s clear to me he was a Mishael Morgan fan, and didn’t want her to leave. Her exit did get him and the writers to do really nice work, and the past couple weeks have been great. The service scenes from yesterday and today were great stuff, and the actors nailed it. I thought Briton And CK were particularly strong.

 

For me, Gina Tognoni overplayed Phyllis’ reaction to the accident. She was almost hysterical, and it was too much. Phyllis can be strong without being out of control.

I haven’t been a Shauna fan, but the actress has been really good these past few days.

 

 

 

I agree with you. If we’re going to criticize ratings drops, we should celebrate an increase and a 3 month high. Of course there will be a drop after an emotional exit story. The hope is that at least some of those viewers stick around. I think the ratings news is good news.


GT did overplay it. they just became BFFs not too long ago, but time doesn't equal love and friendship. she has a tendency to overplay some scenes when it doesn't call for it....but I still dig her. and ratings will go back down because its the nature of the beast. I feel everyone in this story did a fine, fine job. and this story was front and center and got a nice ratings bump, which shows that when we get great storytelling and performers who love the material and beats are played, and there is a significant aftermath to a SL, people will tune in. my hope (which won;t be fulfilled I believe) is this will start better material for the cast.....and hopefully Mal will get rid of this "One day/One episode" idea of his, because IMPO.....it just doesn't work.

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