6 hours ago, ajsp35801 said:

 

The show had nothing for sweeps. 

I'm tired of people complaining one moment that it should be like the old days where the writers are consistent all year and not amp up the stories during sweeps then one moment complain there sweeps stories are boring.

Also, the show is still in repair mode.

1 minute ago, allmc2008 said:

I'm tired of people complaining one moment that it should be like the old days where the writers are consistent all year and not amp up the stories during sweeps then one moment complain there sweeps stories are boring.

Also, the show is still in repair mode.

 

Not sure whether you're castigating me or agreeing with me. I'll choose agreeing cause I agree with you. Lol

4 hours ago, DeeeDee said:

I didn't mind the Nick & Newman stuff so much (even if the pacing dragged & MO was terrible) because it's a nice change to see them acting like a family but the Dylan stuff was excruciating. Between the cheap sets, the lack of background music & Burton's mumbling it was like watching a bad school play.

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Another thing that stood out was Y&R's elimination of friendships & tertiary characters. It's weird to watch veteran Y&R characters having important conversations with their kids. None of these middle aged people have friends anymore so they're stuck confiding their dating woes and marital problems to college kids.

 

This is especially noticeable with scenes between Nick and Noah. The dynamic between them in those bar scenes are a little awkward.

I guess Sharon and Mariah do this a little but it seems different maybe because we've seen some scenes especially recently with them interacting more as mother and daughter (e.g. when Sharon advised her against seeking revenge on Hillary) and Sharon can always have some kind of adult conversation with either Chelsea or Chloe (even if a bit stilted at times).

I can't remember the last time Nick truly had a friend he confided in that he hadn't previously slept with.

Nick's confidante has steadily been Victoria. The same way that Devon's is lily and jack's is Ashley. 

Edited January 12, 20178 yr by ajsp35801

Is it kind of obvious these Dylan scenes were probably shot a while ago? I know everything is shot in advance but this looks like it was done separate from anything and everything else....maybe even longer ago than anything we're seeing.  There's no interaction with anyone else in Genoa City....just "cutting" to Miami and whatever case he's on.  It's just a little disjointed and I don't even really care...I wish they had done something better than this.  Maybe I'll end up being surprised, but this sticking these scenes in seem a little random.  Like piece something - anything - together to explain his exit.  Maybe like....a couple months ago...."let's just write and film this now and then we'll figure out how to work it in later.  If we can't, we'll just say he was killed while working a case and just leave it off camera.  But at least we'll have these Miami scenes in case."

Edited January 12, 20178 yr by Fevuh
correction

Today was slightly better than the rest of the week, at least it was so Gloria-centric.  It was good to see Sharon and Nick be able to have a civil conversation again.  And yea, the Dylan scenes are bizarre.  Again, slightly better today but it did seem disjointed @Fevuh from the rest of the show, even though they are trying to box his scenes in between Paul/Christine or Sharon.

 

I was beginning to wonder what was happening with Devon, has he been laying up in the hospital all week? 

 

It does seem like the new regime doesn't have any ideas for Chelsea, she's hardly featured these days whereas under Pratt, she was on almost everyday - Adam or no Adam.  Not that I'm complaining - it's just an observation. 

 

55 minutes ago, GMac said:

Today was slightly better than the rest of the week, at least it was so Gloria-centric.  It was good to see Sharon and Nick be able to have a civil conversation again.  And yea, the Dylan scenes are bizarre.  Again, slightly better today but it did seem disjointed @Fevuh from the rest of the show, even though they are trying to box his scenes in between Paul/Christine or Sharon.

 

I was beginning to wonder what was happening with Devon, has he been laying up in the hospital all week? 

 

It does seem like the new regime doesn't have any ideas for Chelsea, she's hardly featured these days whereas under Pratt, she was on almost everyday - Adam or no Adam.  Not that I'm complaining - it's just an observation. 

 

 

There is a pacing issue with the show. One story is played heavily for a week then ignored the next. 

 

Sally isn't a fan of Chelsea. Even folks she doesn't have a plan for are still on. She seems to ignore her unless she can't. Wonder if it has something to do with her connections to Adam. Sally doesn't see the need for him. Maybe Chelsea falls into that category by connection. 

Edited January 12, 20178 yr by ajsp35801

I think it was the wrong call to actually show Dylan undercover.  Better to just have him disappear and a body is found a month later.

Makes you wonder if MCE might get the boot 

It's been tossed around that both Melissas are going to be leaving. We'll see if it's just rumors. 

I am anxiously AWAITING a cast purge...

Hey, maybe they're following Marland's rules that everyone touts when they claim all there is to know about soap writing and waiting 6 months before firing anyone?

 

Melissa Ordway is pretty but bland, Victor doesn't need yet another uninteresting child. Her scenes yesterday made her seem like a teenage working for her father and begging to not be an intern anymore. She's 30 playing some undetermined age. It's just all not a good look. These younger characters need definition. None of them aside from Hillary and Mariah have a thing that makes them them.  Not even Lily and she's been on the show for 15 years.

 

I wasn't watching when she was introduced but reading Chelsea's backstory and she's totally incomprehensible as a character. She came on pregnant with Billy's baby saying he raped her? And she did this multiple times with different guys? She gave her baby to Billy and Victoria to raise and then got pregnant by *someone* (I don't remember who), lost that baby and then got pregnant again and passed that baby off as Dylan's (and don't even get me started on this dude) when it was Adam's? And it's revealed that Jeffrey Bardwell, another unnecessary blight on the show, is her father?

 

She's a walking talking plot point baby incubator. I wouldn't want to write for her either.

 

These characters lack inner lives, goals and ambitions. They either need to be redefined or culled. 

Edited January 12, 20178 yr by Darn

10 minutes ago, Darn said:

Hey, maybe they're following Marland's rules that everyone touts when they claim all there is to know about soap writing and waiting 6 months before firing anyone?

 

Melissa Ordway is pretty but bland, Victor doesn't need yet another uninteresting child. Her scenes yesterday made her seem like a teenage working for her father and begging to not be an intern anymore. She's 30 playing some undetermined age. It's just all not a good look. These younger characters need definition. None of them aside from Hillary and Mariah have a thing that makes them them.  Not even Lily and she's been on the show for 15 years.

 

I wasn't watching when she was introduced but reading Chelsea's backstory and she's totally incomprehensible as a character. She came on pregnant with Billy's baby saying he raped her? And she did this multiple times with different guys? She gave her baby to Billy and Victoria to raise and then got pregnant by *someone* (I don't remember who), lost that baby and then got pregnant again and passed that baby off as Dylan's (and don't even get me started on this dude) when it was Adam's? And it's revealed that Jeffrey Bardwell, another unnecessary blight on the show, is her father?

 

She's a walking talking plot point baby incubator. I wouldn't want to write for her either.

 

These characters lack inner lives, goals and ambitions. They either need to be redefined or culled. 

 

The younger characters aren't the only one who lack lives and ambitions. Nick Newman. Nikki Newman. Victor's current characterization. Sharon Collins. None have any amnotion or goals. 

2 hours ago, Darn said:

she's been on the show for 15 years.

 

[Katherine Chancellor] Dear God In Heaven [/Katherine Chancellor]

Edited January 12, 20178 yr by DeeeDee

31 minutes ago, Darn said:

Hey, maybe they're following Marland's rules that everyone touts when they claim all there is to know about soap writing and waiting 6 months before firing anyone?

 

 Oh hell naw! Marland would never write this sh*t!

 

They obviously didn't listen to the other rules, why the hell would they follow that one?!