Members YRfan23 Posted December 17, 2015 Members Share Posted December 17, 2015 I think it's because Braeden doesn't want to play a "poor character" cause he grew up that way, so I guess to him having Victor lose makes him fear having to play someone who's poor....which is B.S as there are plenty of ways to make Victor lose and make him still be rich(though the idea of Victor losing his money makes me smile).....trust me, no one in soaps ever stays poor for long, so I don't get what his problem is if that's the case....he will start again from scratch and rise back to the top as most soap characters do.... At least someone once told Tony Geary that he can LEAVE if he doesn't like what's being done to Luke......I don't understand why no one at Y&R has never had that same attitude.....are they afraid Braeden will attack them and risk getting himself arrested? If his biggest challenge with them all is him threatening to leave, then maybe that's what he should do...he should have stayed gone when he tried leaving the first time in 2009.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NothinButAttitude Posted December 17, 2015 Members Share Posted December 17, 2015 Who cares (re: Braeden history)? It's a character and he shouldn't take it personal. It's not like Victor would become dirt poor. He's wealthy. He'd still live comfortable but have financial issues, thus forcing him to liquidate assets until rising like a phoenix. It would be actually endearing. Again, actors like Braeden have sucked the life source out of this genre. I'd NEVER allow an actor to dictate my writing. I'd kill or recast the character before it got to that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members piperisthenewsookie Posted December 17, 2015 Members Share Posted December 17, 2015 I think Braeden has gotten more power over the years. Bill Bell and co. probably did not take a lot of crap from him and therefore Victor was written more like a real human being. Then as the writing degenerated vets like Braeden become perceived as indispensable because they are links to the good old days. Also, no other character has been developed to replace him and the writing is such that there are no compelling story lines to distract from his disappearance if it happened. He's got a job for life like JC did. MTS probably does as well as PB, KSJ, SC, JM and to a lesser extent TB, CLB and GR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rlj Posted December 17, 2015 Members Share Posted December 17, 2015 LOVED the show today for obvious reasons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members YRfan23 Posted December 18, 2015 Members Share Posted December 18, 2015 It's funny that Victor is such a caricature that I'm starting to feel that a Y&R where Victor Newman never existed would have probably been a lot better....past or present....at least a version that's not an undefeatable alpha male..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members slick jones Posted December 18, 2015 Members Share Posted December 18, 2015 I guess Hunter King's thirty seconds every three weeks on Life in Pieces is why they can't use her on Y&R... Please register in order to view this content Just sayin...LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members detroitpiston Posted December 18, 2015 Members Share Posted December 18, 2015 I'm not crying over her lack of airtime but I think Hunter's a decent actress and Summer still has potential. She just suffers from some of the same pitfalls that ruined Lulu/Julie Marie Berman at GH. They declawed Summer way too fast. The bully story with Jamie & Fen and running over Chelsea showed she could work as a vindictive screw up character, which is what I'd expect Phyllis' daughter to be. As soon as Josh G left she was turned into a generic beige heroine. Lame romances: I liked her with Fen, Jamie and Natalie Nunn chin Kyle but they let those burnout with no flare. Her pairing with Austin was rushed and forced down our throats and then when they finally had decent problems Pratt killed him, and she and this nuKyle were thrown together too fast and then sent to the back burner. Hunter is smart to be building up a resume outside the show and working those CBS connections. Her contract should be up soon and if I were her I'd leave, she's still pretty & young and could make it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members slick jones Posted December 18, 2015 Members Share Posted December 18, 2015 I enjoyed her at first, but I really think she picked up some bad tics and a "DAGF" attitude toward her performance, walking through her scenes. Of course, it's not like either of the last 2 sets of writers(?3?) could write any kind of quality material for any of the characters, especially UpChuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members celine12 Posted December 18, 2015 Members Share Posted December 18, 2015 None of the young actors should be investing all their time on a soap. JH is the perfect example of how to use soaps as a safe haven, while building your career in primetime. HK's younger sister Joey has a major role in Independance Day 2. So hopefully HK is trying to break into films as well as doing more prime time. The character Marissa is great. Beautifu girl, good actress and putting her at NE and getting her away from boring Noah are excellent moves. I also think Luca is great. So maybe CP plans to use them to build a new cast of young characters, so far it's working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khan Posted December 18, 2015 Members Share Posted December 18, 2015 Unfortunately, considering how the networks dictate and micro-manage everything these days, you wouldn't have a choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NothinButAttitude Posted December 18, 2015 Members Share Posted December 18, 2015 I know. That's why I've long ago put aside my dreams of wanting to head write for one of the remaining four. It'd be too much of a stress to fight over stories and really have no say. I'd rather create my own material and stress early on that I have a say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GMac Posted December 18, 2015 Members Share Posted December 18, 2015 Ashley's insta-desire to work with Neville The Mad Scientist makes no sense. Especially now that Jabot needs her. It's simply not something that the character would do at this time. But why would UpChuck start writing sensible character behavior now? It was good to see LB/Kyle today. I wish they'd write for him. BUT...what's up with Kyle/Noah being all buddy-buddy? They aren't friends, they're rivals. It was wonderful to get a break from clowny faced KSu today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members edgeofnik Posted December 18, 2015 Members Share Posted December 18, 2015 If you watched Ashley's scenes with John this week, it's clear what is motivating her. I'm actually intrigued where this might lead. Today was odd with the lame excuse that Nick, who made such a huge deal over Summer's paternity, can't be bothered to make a cameo (even off-screen) at Summer's pre-party. That doesn't ring true with Nick on any level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members slick jones Posted December 18, 2015 Members Share Posted December 18, 2015 Haven't watched yet, but Please register in order to view this content at Sag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GMac Posted December 18, 2015 Members Share Posted December 18, 2015 I don't believe for a minute that she would abandon Jabot at this time, especially with Billy gone. Regardless of her motivation they shared with us onscreen. JMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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