Would Peter Bergman allow for Jack to be transitioned into the patriarch role? When was the last time Keemo was mentioned onscreen?

Wasn't the last time he mentioned Keemo was around the time Diane died and there was tension between him and Kyle over Nikki?

But sh*t like this pisses me off when it comes to Y&R. The actors have too much clout when it comes to story. Had I been head writer, Victor & Jack would've met early demises or recast because Bergman and Braden have too much clout. IMO, Keemo & Kyle should be playing the stories that Jack has. Jack should be transitioning into the role of John. I don't see why that is so bad when John kept story his entire run on the show. Yeah, he was supporting most of the time but he still had a presence on the show.

Y&R's problem is that all the characters are written to be younger than what they are. The characters all need to grow the f*ck up and act their ages on this show.

Yikes with the super fast writing and pace today. Y&R was never like this. Are Nancy Curlee/Stephen Demorest, Millee Taggart...anyone still willing to write decently still alive?

Problem is these execs won't hire them for some mundane reason

Was it Pratt who did this exact "I Know What You Did Last Summer" ripoff plot with the teens on AMC, back when it was Yaya DaCosta as Cassandra, Brienne Moncrief as Colby, etc.? No, I think that was Brown and Esensten; I think he came in right after. Anyway, he's doing it now for no apparent reason - let's hide Austin's murder! That happened when we were all drugged up! Hilarious.

Yikes with the super fast writing and pace today. Y&R was never like this. Are Nancy Curlee/Stephen Demorest, Millee Taggart...anyone still willing to write decently still alive?

Nancy Curlee retired after GL. She's stated in an interview a few years back that she's basically done b/c she wanted to focus on motherhood.

Nancy Curlee retired after GL. She's stated in an interview a few years back that she's basically done b/c she wanted to focus on motherhood.

NC's style of writing is what I hoped we would see at Y&R after JFP arrived. After all, NC and JFP ( & Co.) made some beautiful soap opera at GL in the early '90s. That show was like a colorful tapestry that wove the characters' lives together in an intricate, unpredictable, totally addictive way. But yeah, NC has said that she was burnt out after GL and she wanted to be a mom. Her kids are all grown now, and NC is still young (in her fifties?). Wish she would turn up somewhere, but she and Pratt would never mesh.

Given how quickly GL fell apart without Curlee (and I'd say even with her in that last year), JFP bore little responsibility for GL's strengths.

Didn't LML also start with a ridiculously fast pace? I wonder if the same fans who lived in her colon love Pratt. I saw some fans cheering about how that noisy, hollow promo last week was going to show DAYS, and look out DAYS (even though they aren't exactly competing...). I wonder if they still feel that way.

Given how quickly GL fell apart without Curlee (and I'd say even with her in that last year), JFP bore little responsibility for GL's strengths.

When Curlee was writing the show it was very good once she left the show it was a complete mess.

…oh and the briefcase mystery….yawn….

Yawn is about it. Pictures and keepsakes are retribution? LOL Jill needs to school Neil about vengeance.

I couldn't think of anything Neil could do to hurt Devon & Hillary and I guess the writers couldn't either. So far the plane crash is getting in the way of all the fallout.

Yawn is about it. Pictures and keepsakes are retribution? LOL Jill needs to school Neil about vengeance.

I couldn't think of anything Neil could do to hurt Devon & Hillary and I guess the writers couldn't either. So far the plane crash is getting in the way of all the fallout.

Neil: Oh and you can burn all of them except the ones of Lily…..ummm…..ok….whatever…big wow NOT….lol

And this after Neil kept giving all of them before and during the flight the evil eye……Neil sure is dangerous aint he….LOL

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Yawn is about it. Pictures and keepsakes are retribution? LOL Jill needs to school Neil about vengeance.

I couldn't think of anything Neil could do to hurt Devon & Hillary and I guess the writers couldn't either. So far the plane crash is getting in the way of all the fallout.

When Neil told Nikki last week that he was gonna get revenge on Devon and Hilary, I was all set for a soapy, twisty plot to make them suffer. Was this it?

When Curlee was writing the show it was very good once she left the show it was a complete mess.

A lot of her last year was Buzz yelling at people in a fake New Yawk accent. Some good things too, but overshadowed.

NC's style of writing is what I hoped we would see at Y&R after JFP arrived. After all, NC and JFP ( & Co.) made some beautiful soap opera at GL in the early '90s. That show was like a colorful tapestry that wove the characters' lives together in an intricate, unpredictable, totally addictive way. But yeah, NC has said that she was burnt out after GL and she wanted to be a mom. Her kids are all grown now, and NC is still young (in her fifties?). Wish she would turn up somewhere, but she and Pratt would never mesh.

I don't see Jill and Nancy working together. Jill always gave me vibes that she preferred to be alongside the 'good ole boys' instead of women.

Given how quickly GL fell apart without Curlee (and I'd say even with her in that last year), JFP bore little responsibility for GL's strengths.

This.

Jill is only good for music and redoing sets. Oh and picking EMMY reels other than that, she's just a figurehead at best.

I don't see Jill and Nancy working together. Jill always gave me vibes that she preferred to be alongside the 'good ole boys' instead of women.

This.

Jill is only good for being a b itch on sets. Oh and picking EMMY reels other than that, she's just a figurehead at best.

There fixed!!

Today was way too fast paced.

Just because I am feeling nostalgic….

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGD1WEHqp8Mhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJIcyRDVKIY

Edited February 17, 201511 yr by Soapsuds