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Y&R: August 2014 Discussion Thread

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You're breaking my heart with that one. AMC's hair, makeup and wardrobe people were viciously underrated. When I compare their work to Y&R's hair, makeup and wardrobe staff, the PP staff did a far superior job.

AMC and OLTL's people. I know it's compulsive for me to keep mentioning that, but by the end of OLTL on ABC they had Evangeline, Viki, Cassie, Nora and Blair all wearing the same sport jacket some years, so it was a really nice change.

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Is that company even still public? But I agree. MABwrote from the perspective of a wealthy woman who knew nothing about the inner workings and day to day opwrations of a business. All she knows about is owning, buying and selling. The Newman kids suing Victor over mismanagement of their trust funds was her idea of a business story. Which wasn't a bad idea, in theory. But there was no real fallout or lasting effects.

This is a soap that is still mining Jack taking Jabot public & that happened 25 years ago.

Newman going public should have been a huge umbrella story. Even Victor's betrayal of everyone during the Tuvia story almost destroyed everyone involved & that was the ripple effects of just ONE character's actions.

Today's Y&R (in addition to the absence of business stories) has no idea how to write long term character based drama which is why promising younger characters like Mason & Jamie disappear after they've provided temporary story for existing characters (who would otherwise be spinning their wheels) & older characters (who should be easy to write for) are subjected to constant storyline resets (Jack, Sharon, Neil, Victor) every time sweeps weeks end.

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Altman/Passanate's writing is beyond uninspired and monotonous and like Passante's final years at ATWT always, always overlooks any potential and good possibilities and instead coasts month to month. Unlike Latham and MAB/Sheffer/Hanmer the tedious two are actually inoffensive except in their ineptitude to write a sufficient story. Oh sure Latham and MAB had their vision but what played out on screen was abhorrent, vapid, and disgraceful. Wishy-washy Griffith had some good ideas but backpedaled(ie Hilary as Dru's long lost daughter, Summer's paternity etc.)

Y&R main reason of it being unacceptable to watch these days is because there is no one really running the ship who understands it at all or anyone who has history with it. That's probably my main beef with Phelps this time around--doing decent job as EP yet no idea of what made Y&R #1.

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We know Passanante suggested Cady for the Kelly part (Cady confirmed). I would venture to guess that Passanante suggested Tognoni too. Both actresses have a great following and both are capable, but the recasts are handicapped (partly due to timing and partly due to all the lost veterans and partly that the roles are weaky written). NuBilly casting has Phelps written all over it. The irony is that on Phelps' other shows she downgraded the middle aged women; so why would we want to age Billy, the leading man, so visibly, is beyond me. The actor is just not right for the role.

They are writing Nikki to be very unsympathetic. I didn't relate to her crashing Paul's honeymoon. She's being pedantic and whiny. I'm not buying that she's going to fall off the wagon or the reasons shown.

Tognoni is just too young and doesn't have the edges (physically or emotionally) that Stafford has. She already feels like Phil light. And the choice to have Bergman sniffle over her lifeless corps in those unconvincing scenes did nothing to endear us to nuPhil.

The only way to salvage Stich's character is to put him as a half naked lifeguard at the club pool and give him very few lines to say. In fact, save money and make him an U/5!

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Maura wore it best!

Without a doubt. It's another example of how horribly wasted MW was on Y&R. Wrong character, wrong pairings, wrong writing, etc.

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We know Passanante suggested Cady for the Kelly part (Cady confirmed). I would venture to guess that Passanante suggested Tognoni too. Both actresses have a great following and both are capable, but the recasts are handicapped (partly due to timing and partly due to all the lost veterans and partly that the roles are weaky written). NuBilly casting has Phelps written all over it. The irony is that on Phelps' other shows she downgraded the middle aged women; so why would we want to age Billy, the leading man, so visibly, is beyond me. The actor is just not right for the role.

They are writing Nikki to be very unsympathetic. I didn't relate to her crashing Paul's honeymoon. She's being pedantic and whiny. I'm not buying that she's going to fall off the wagon or the reasons shown.

Tognoni is just too young and doesn't have the edges (physically or emotionally) that Stafford has. She already feels like Phil light. And the choice to have Bergman sniffle over her lifeless corps in those unconvincing scenes did nothing to endear us to nuPhil.

The only way to salvage Stich's character is to put him as a half naked lifeguard at the club pool and give him very few lines to say. In fact, save money and make him an U/5!

Actually Gina put her own tape at y and r. Gina is a great actress who auditioned and won the part. Let's give her more time before. Let's remember Michelle left the show it was her choice. Cady is horrible as Kelly she's a needy mess of a character. She's so miscast in this part.

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I agree she's awful in this role. Cynthia was miles better. I don't even know should y and r recast again or cut there losses with this character. I love Cady but she's horrible miscast and out of place here reminds me of Eden Reigal.

I doubt robin Christopher as new Phyllis. Remember Phyllis was recast before and successful. Judy blye Wilson has the toughest casting with new Adam and Phyllis. Give cady a chance she just started. I remember same thing when she started as Rosanna and it turned into a three year gig. Cady is a great actress give her time to WOW us.

I think Cady did great. She will have a different take on Kelly. She's a welcome addition to the show.

That's what everyone said about cady as rosanna on ATwt. Everyone calling her miscast and then what was supposed to be a short stint turned into three years and an Emmy to boot and she showed straight out and proven everyone wrong.

Cady McClain can breathe new life into Kelly. I wasn't that impressed Cynthia in this role. I don't why but something didn't click with her in this role. Cady has already proven she can play a character so polar opposite of Dixie as she did on ATwt. Interesting cady has two Emmys one for Dixie and one for Rosanna

Cady is a friend of Judy blye Wilson. So it was judy who pushed for cady in the role. I really interested to see cady's take. I didn't love Cynthia in the role.

I guess 40s are the new 80s on this board. I agree with everyone I think Cady is miscast as Kelly she doesn't work. Cynthia was much better in the role

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Looks like one of those epic flashback sequences Bell & Alden used to play back then, when a character was going to get his/her comeuppance. I love it.

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Well vee I changed my mind since seeing her in the role. That can happen. Have u ever changed your mine about something.

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Imagine how glorious it would be if we turned into a Friday episode and you spot these three just living life? Not as an end of episode tag, but just include them in the episode as if it's nothing and then at the end you could have the two Lily's run into each other. It would shut down daytime, but of course any Dru return (if it ever happened) wouldn't be worth a damn with these writers.

Back in reality this pic comes from a TV One film airing this October called Fright Night: The Mirror

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VR looks gorgeous! so does Davetta, had no idea they were working together again?

anyways, rolling my eyes that Courtney is now jealous of Harding having a GF......tired of seeing her and Noah being so isolated and pointless.

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Bern Bennett: "Please join us again...for 'The Isolated and the Pointless'."

You know, it has a sort of ring to it? ;)

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