THREE MORE DAYS LEFT !!!!

Edited September 20, 201114 yr by Angela

I have to agree that I have always found JY's villainous acting choices OTT, and I've wondered if he was actually trying to ape his onscreen dad because I can definitely see a resemblance to DC's blustery style (which, y'know, actually works for DC).

Let me preface this by reiterating how much I love DC but his acting style looks ridiculous on anybody else. However it's perfect for Adam. Adam is, like Palmer was, a character from a different time. He, Erica, Opal and Tad are the last of a group of characters like Phoebe, Myrtle, Langley, etc... They're singular and unique.

There's two patients. I think everyone is just confused because only one is ready to be revealed. I'd be willing to bet the one to be revealed is

Stuart

and the other one won't be revealed to PV but to the audience. I think that one is

Josh

.

Why on earth would they do that?

Bring Josh back? No idea. But there still is two patients, and one of them isn't Babe. I'm sure she's a ghost. So if he's not lying to Erica he either means Stuart or someone else, who wasn't a lover of hers.

There's two patients. I think everyone is just confused because only one is ready to be revealed. I'd be willing to bet the one to be revealed is

Stuart

and the other one won't be revealed to PV but to the audience. I think that one is

Josh

.

I'm definitely open to there being another patient that David will reveal. If for no other reason then it would mean that the show wasn't so sloppy as to have two patients turn into one in the span of one episode.

I rarely ever got wounded from Michael Cambias (Will Devry). I know he was, but he always came off to me like a lost cause who was just going to get worst and worst.

I feel like this is JR. We know that he is wounded in side but he can never be happy because of his own actions. I feel JR most of the time was a lost cause outside of the brief moments of happiness he had with his love interests (usually Babe).

and aside from Annie, the character hasn't ever really had a popular relationship.

Babe. Good lord. Babe. JR and Babe were a very popular relationship, they are actually his flag ship pairing and his most popular ship he ever had.

JR loved one woman and one woman only....I don't like it but that's the the way it is.

Exactly and oddly enough it was the same for her despite everything they put each other through. I never thought we would agree on something. lol.

I'm also in the camp of AMC doing this because JY decided to leave. Like I've posted in different threads, JY's comments at the fan events where very much filled with hope for JR getting a happy ending and that's all he wanted for the character, some peace and in my opinion, he seemed to believe that's what he was getting with AH returning.

I agree. PP wanted a cliff hanger and Agnes and Lorraine pissed all over JR's happy ending via Babe to make him shoot everyone apparently. That's definitely the way it seems.

It's obvious that the one of the two people was supposed to be Babe. Even today David never says that she is out right dead which just pushes JR futher into madness because David isn't giving him direct answers.

I feel like most of the characters have very irritating qualities, most of all hypocrisy and self-righteousness. The list goes on and on...Zendall, Rylee, Griffin, Tad, Jake, Erica, Marissa, Jesse, Krystho, David, and even Opal and Bianca at times. That's like literally half the cast.

Where is Erica in that list?

I have to agree that I have always found JY's villainous acting choices OTT, and I've wondered if he was actually trying to ape his onscreen dad because I can definitely see a resemblance to DC's blustery style (which, y'know, actually works for DC).

I agree completely. That is not to insult Jacob he gives it his all. I just wished he toned it down a bit during his villainy.

Edited September 20, 201114 yr by Skin

I wasn't sure if Babe/JR were ever seen as a couple, mostly because it seemed like Babe was in love with others (Josh, Jamie) and a lot of their stories were about JR feeling used by her or wanting to punish her.

I never thought we would agree on something. lol.

Well you are the only other person (besides myself) who liked the Gillian and return and was moved by it...I guess that's two things we agree on now.

I wasn't sure if Babe/JR were ever seen as a couple, mostly because it seemed like Babe was in love with others (Josh, Jamie) and a lot of their stories were about JR feeling used by her or wanting to punish her.

they were unfortunately in 2006 around the time they had that double wedding with Krystal. They most definetly were in 2008 when Amanda Baker was in the role. That was the only time I actually enjoyed them as did seem to grow up and were over all that drama with cheating and trying to hurt each other. Babe and JR in 2008 was the most healthy and beleivable the two ever were

David saying to JR "I may be behind bars but you are the real loser in this" seemed also meta.

It's wrong what LB is doing to a legacy character like JR. You just don't do that to legacy character's

Given JR's character history, I think its not that much of a leap for him to totally go off the deep end, as far as his children are concerned. He's all the bad things Adam was, add his constant addiction problems to the mix and its a recipe for an explosion. I agree that its maybe not neccesary, but it totally falls within the realm of the character as he has been written since Jacob Young assumed the role anyway.

Whether or not this is all in keeping w/ JR's character, you have to admit it breaks the heart to see "Junior," that little boy who was a legacy of one of AMC's biggest and best-ever storylines, coming apart like he is. It's like when GL's Ben Reade, whose conception was a BIG story BITD, suddenly became a serial killer who wound up taking his own life.

Today was weak and incredibly disappointing and I think that is due in large part to re-writes.

Based on the unusual double Chip Hayes/Kate Hall episode credit today it looks like Kate Hall's original script got heavily re-written by Hayes. I mean parts of episodes are re-written all the time and they never credit the re-writer(s), so this must have involved extensive altering.

A true shame, especially if there are no more "Kane Women" moments or Jack/Erica moments in the finale. Because today did not do the entire arc of either one justice. It was just repetitive yammering about Erica's book (or movie script? I wasn't even paying attention), cringe-worthy moments of breaking the fourth wall that reminded me of that awful episode in the aftermath of Spike's accident/Ian's birth, and a lazy attempt at a montage.

Whether or not this is all in keeping w/ JR's character, you have to admit it breaks the heart to see "Junior," that little boy who was a legacy of one of AMC's biggest and best-ever storylines, coming apart like he is. It's like when GL's Ben Reade, whose conception was a BIG story BITD, suddenly became a serial killer who wound up taking his own life.

Oh I agree, like I said... I don't really think it was necessary to take him down this path, or at least as far as they have. I think instead of "Babe" saving him (even though I doubt now her ghostly premonition will), I think Adam should have been brought back alot sooner than this final week to try and save him. It would have been kind of a great book-end for Adam to sort of finally take some responsibility in the degenerate JR has slowly, and now quite rapidly become. I mean wouldn't that be refreshing as opposed to hearing EVERYONE else blame Adam? I also think Dixie too should have been used more effectively to try and negate this mess.

Today was weak and incredibly disappointing and I think that is due in large part to re-writes.

Based on the unusual double Chip Hayes/Kate Hall episode credit today it looks like Kate Hall's original script got heavily re-written by Hayes. I mean parts of episodes are re-written all the time and they never credit the re-writer(s), so this must have involved extensive altering.

A true shame, especially if there are no more "Kane Women" moments or Jack/Erica moments in the finale. Because today did not do the entire arc of either one justice. It was just repetitive yammering about Erica's book (or movie script? I wasn't even paying attention), cringe-worthy moments of breaking the fourth wall that reminded me of that awful episode in the aftermath of Spike's accident/Ian's birth, and a lazy attempt at a montage.

I found the entire episode very disjointed and very disappointing as well. The "interview" segments were very awkward.

But didn't Griffin have two files just today or the other day? I think maybe the second person's identity will be a cliffhanger for the online version. There was that statement that Esta filmed more as Gillian but that looks disposed of just like Josh's other footage at ConFusion.

Yesterday, JR mentioned that David was holding 2 patients. However, David was only releasing 1 to Griffin.

Based on the unusual double Chip Hayes/Kate Hall episode credit today it looks like Kate Hall's original script got heavily re-written by Hayes. I mean parts of episodes are re-written all the time and they never credit the re-writer(s), so this must have involved extensive altering.

Yeah, I think it was rewritten after Kate Hall took off for GH.

In the new promo, the person under the sheet (if that's upcoming stuff) definitely has men's feet. Ain't no way that's Babe! LOL