As The World Turns Discussion Thread

[DramatistDreamer]

Did those shows archive his appearances on their shows? ATWT and GL are the two shows I am more familiar with which is why I cited them. My point though is that soaps were terrible about preservation. Even in the early 70s when even the lowest budget theater in the park had presence of mine to preserve performances. P&G’s efforts were particularly dire.

[slick jones]

I don't believe they did. I was just mentioning that he started earlier than those roles. Imagine if an old Searchepisode turned up with Jones pushing Jo or Patti around while in the hospital, though!

 

[wonderwoman1951]

for sure, p&g in particular, were awful about archiving those early episodes — cheaper to tape over and not have to worry about space to store the tapes. laurie caso once told me that there were only about a dozen available. 

was not aware of jones’s earlier soap appearances, but not surprised. the big deal about jones, micki grant on another world, and billy dee williams and cicely tyson on guiding light is that they were the first black actors to be put on contract. 

of course, in 1962, rex ingram became the first black actor on contract. but the show, ‘the brighter day,’ was cancelled 2 weeks after his first episode. bad optics for sure, but the show had been moved from the late afternoon to late morning and the ratings were tanking, so it’s unlikely his appearance was a much of a factor.

[DRW50]

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A few moments from an episode near the end of 1977. Nothing standout here, other than a reminder of just how long Kim had that haircut, but still, it's nice to be reminded some stuff is still out there (apparently most of the episode was taped over - drat). And it's always nice to see Carol, and a brief glimpse of Michael Nader rocking a '70s ugly shirt that looks like someone painted a building onto it.

 

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Edited September 13, 2024 by DRW50

[SoapDope]

Thank You for finding that. Kim did have that same hairstyle for years. I noticed Larry Wilcox from CHIPS in the Pringles ad. Doris Roberts in the Safeguard ad. 

[jam6242]

Thanks @DRW50!

[SoapDope]

Carol mentioned Natalie (Judith Chapman) to Kim. I would love to have seen her in this clip. 

[All My Shadows]

What an awesome find, as any 70s ATWT is. This was the show’s last year on top, and you can definitely feel more energy here than you would two years later. Kim must have just started to wear her hair like that within the preceding year because she still had her big blow-out in 1976.

[vetsoapfan]

Thanks, @DRW50, vintage ATWT from the 1970s is always a treat to see.

Those Pringles potato chips look delicious!

[Paul Raven]

 The Hawaii 50 / Barnaby Jones eps aired Thurs Dec 27 1977 so ATWT was probably the Tues or Wed episode of that week.

Thanks @DRW50 for sharing.

[Mona Kane Croft]

Does anyone know what set Kim and Carol are on?  I'm assuming it was probably Kim's house.  If so, then is this the same house she later lived in with Bob in the mid-1980s?  I've always been told the house we mid-80s fans always called the Hughes house (Kim and Bob's house) had previously been Kim's residence for years, and the Bob moved in with her when they got married.  

[Paul Raven]

Kim had an apartment in the 79 episodes when she was widowed.

I think the Kim/Bob house was a newer set. Where did she live when married to Nick?

And where was Bob living? After Jen's death I think he moved back in with Chris & Nancy so Nancy could look after Frannie.

But the Hughes house was dropped and Bob married Miranda. Maybe she & Bob lived in that house and Kim moved in?

Someone will know @vetsoapfan ?

[DramatistDreamer]

Thanks @DRW50 for tagging me on this video. Watching a scene like this, it occurs to me that anyone who grew up on a steady diet of soaps exclusively from the past two decades might find that scene between Kim and Carol to be plodding but I like the pace of conversation and how realistic it sounds, the way an unscripted conversation might seem. You only need listen to what the characters are saying, how they relate to each other and soon you’ll be drawn in. Today’s soaps would only give this length of time to the characters if there were at least four in the room talking, likely about some bizarre scenario. Scenes in soaps today are barely two minutes unless they are intercutting with something else happening simultaneously,which is drawn straight from the movies. 

When Bob and Kim got married in ‘85, I remember scenes when Bob was packing boxes and trying to get Tom (and maybe Frannie too?) to come and get some of his cherished childhood items (I guess the implication was that Bob would donate and/or junk the rest). I also remember Craig Montgomery coming in as Bob was hauling out the rest of his belongings as he sold the place to Craig. I think Bob even handed the key to Craig and said something like “Welcome home” to Craig.

[Soapsuds]

Thanks @DRW50  Always love me some classic ATWT.

@vetsoapfan I've been buying a lot of Pringles lately. They are so good!

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[Mitch64]

The Hughes house was originally lived in by Nick and Kim..and was remolded (acknowledged on air...the staircase and the entryway where even Kim mentioned, "So someone can come in and close the doors to have a private conversation" a foreshadowing of many eavesdropping to be done only to be outdone by the Snyder eavesdropping porch, which ruined many a paternity secret.