I thought I'd open since it's been a week. It still doesn't seem real.

Just now, DramatistDreamer said:

I will never stop berating them for their lack of vision.

Nor should you! I bet Julianne Moore would get behind some sort of effort to restore and preserve those years at least.

17 minutes ago, Vee said:

Nor should you! I bet Julianne Moore would get behind some sort of effort to restore and preserve those years at least.

Jennifer Keishin Armstrong, who wrote that wonderful book When Women Invented Television that has been trending in the wake of Betty White's passing, seems to have disappeared from social media (I could have sworn she was once on Twitter) also wrote about Irna Phillips in great detail. I had hoped to message her regarding this because I believe she briefly wrote about running into stumbling blocks concerning classic episodes of ATWT and GL, as well as episodes of the classic 1950s sitcom The Goldbergs. She would also be a great person who can speak about the validity of preserving and sharing classic episodes. At some point, I will summon the will to contact her.

Julianne Moore would be a fantastic spokesperson for this but I am not sure how accessible she truly is. I mean, if someone tweeted her, would she reply?

 

1 hour ago, Vee said:

Nor should you! I bet Julianne Moore would get behind some sort of effort to restore and preserve those years at least.

If only we could say the same thing about Meg Ryan.

I was surprised to recognize a very young Cady McClain as Peter O'Toole's daughter in My Favourite Year. 

6 minutes ago, Xanthe said:

I was surprised to recognize a very young Cady McClain as Peter O'Toole's daughter in My Favourite Year. 

Yep. Except she is credited with the more conventional spelling of "Katie" McClain.

For a year now, I've been subscribing to the Beverly Hills 90210 show where each week they talk about different episodes/interview actors. This week they interviewed Melanie Smith (ex-Emily Stewart). 

 

As many times as I dipped out on this show, I shouldn't have known the answer to this but I did. Wow, some soap fans are some basic -------. 😂

OK #ATWT fans, did U know this piece of #Barbara trivia served up by @ColleenZenk to the contestants on the latest episode of #SoapOperaKnowItAll? Check out the full game show with more #ATWT alums & #Days @BlakeBerris #michaelfairmanchannel @youtube here https://t.co/FdNz9grByW pic.twitter.com/KzJZVE1jEn

— MIchael Fairman (@MichaelFairman) January 4, 2022

 

I wonder if someone can help me date this episode. I've noticed for some time that some of the classic 60s episodes appear on Youtube under several different dates.

These two videos show the same episode:

SoapsNThings lists it as January 1963: 

Ohh Donna lists it as 1962 (unknown): 

 

 

Since the SoapsNThings version was on Youtube first, I had it written down as January 1963. Does anyone know if this is correct?

 

 

On 1/4/2022 at 12:21 PM, DramatistDreamer said:

As many times as I dipped out on this show, I shouldn't have known the answer to this but I did. Wow, some soap fans are some basic -------. 😂

Hahaha

I was watching these and some of the questions that the contestants didn't get were so easy, it was almost ridiculous lol someone on here should go on.

7 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:

 

Dear lord! A whole hour...😬  Mitzi was only a minor character. 

Edited January 6, 20223 yr by victoria foxton

Alan loves Oreo's and Charlie's Angel's. ATWT talk starts 30 mins in. Anne's very likable. Anne was close friends with Lisa Brown.

 

 

Edited January 7, 20223 yr by victoria foxton

Today is the type of day that I'd appreciate the good escapists drama of vintage ATWT. 

I look at the upload schedule of B&B episodes and, man, could you imagine if PGP did something like this for ATWT years 1986 and 1987?!! Every storyline, each and every episode, from beginning to end?!

Man, today is the type of day that I wish someone were looking out for ATWT like someone is clearly looking out for B&B fans.

There is no argument that Irna Phillips created a masterpiece and her writing and vision for the show was brilliant.   And there's no doubt that Doug Marland was another high point for the show.

I also liked the time period in the 70s before and after ATWT went to an hour written by Robert Sonderberg and Edith Sommer.  They did great work on The Guiding Light with the introduction of the Norris family, a great murder trial, and iconic characters like Roger Thorpe and Holly.  On ATWT, unlike the later writing, every character connected to the Hughes and Stewart families had an active storyline.

Lisa had a romance and marriage to Grant Coleman and had battles with her scheming nemeses Joyce.  They even entered the rivalry with Ellen when Ellen sympathized with Joyce over her adoption issue with Teddy Ellison.  Great to have Lisa center stage and not be a glorified hotel clerk like she was in the last episode.

We had Natalie who helped to break up Tom and Carol, marry Tom and get involved with Jay.

Kim married John to give her baby a name and this probably was her atonement for her affair with Bob.  There were some things they had to repair after Irna's last stint.

Not sure what Bob's storyline was, but am sure involved Jennifer and Kim.  Probably in a stupor about how he could have been so dumb  as to sleep with his sister in law.

Ellen was involved with her daughters Annie and Dee.   Annie with her marriage to Beau and an interfering mother in law.  Dee was a funny wholesome girl next door at this time who pretty much lived in her sister's shadow.  This was before she overnight became Oakdale's sex symbol killing men in bed, being sought after by Brad Pornstache,  Svengali John, and James.  Even if the plot was slow or nonexistent, it was fun to watch the characters much like Irna's writing.

I realize there had to be updates due to more contemporary shows that had made inroads to ATWTs ratings and later writers introduced more action oriented plots and fast paced scenes.   Also I feel there were compromises to beloved characters (Kim running around with a Greek restaurant owner, Bob marrying a mafia princess). This was at the expense of traditional viewers like me.