Paul Raven

For one horrific moment it appeared we were moving towards a Kandy win. How and why she made it to Top 2 is one of the great mysteries of our time.

The fact that there are plants all over the world... Like when Lauren (for no reason) announced Fenmore's was opening in Japan and Sth Korea (when department stores are shutting down everywhere)Meanwhile she operates her business with no staff or office. Jabot should have been a boutique cosmetics firm, Fenmore's a small chain operating in the midwest, Newman an investment business with a few holdings. The characters could be wealthy but it would be believable that they would be based in GC and the businesses could be depicted somewhat realistically. And threats would seem real. But when its been established that the Newmans are multi billionaires...

The money they were paying Larry and then Patrick, along with escalating salary increases and production costs coupled with falling ratings meant they had to cut people to keep the show financially viable. There was not a lot to be earned in reruns (a gold mine for other shows) and international sales had tapered off. So I guess once contracts came up...

Re Hope recast. Hope was pretty much played out as a lead character (like many others) so if a recast is used to wrap up Hope's story she could either be written out or used as a recurring character.

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Check the Ratings from the 70's thread in the Cancelled Soaps section. All this and more is posted there and you should be able to access it for your needs.

The ratings info I have are from a variety of sources, but mostly Daytime TV which published monthly ratings from a few months prior to publication date. They don't detail whether the ratings they show are the monthly average or just the results from one particular week from that month. Nonetheless they give a good guide to how GH was fairing pre Monty/Monty and Marland and then Monty and PFS. By April 77 GH was not in top 10 soaps or top 15 daytime shows AMC, OLTL and RH all outrated GH. AW on NBC and All in the Family/Match Game on CBS were trouncing GH. ABC tried new writers to rev up GH. Nov 77 GH not in top 15 daytime shows ABC hires Doug Marland late 77 and then decides to expand to 60 min and hires Gloria Monty. Jan -Aug 78 GH #6 in soaps 7.2/25 #8 overall. AMC was #1 soap in that time. So over those months show makes a dramatic comeback. Nov 78 #7 7.1/25 Dec 78 #2 8.8/30 Jan 79 #2 9.7/29 Feb 79 #3 10.29 March 79 #5 8.0/27 April 79 #5 8.0/31 May 79 #6 7.9/26 June 79 #5 7.4/28 July 79 #4 9.0/32 Aug 79 #2 10.2/33 Sept 79 #2 8.5/30 Pat Falken Smith too over in August 79.

And if Tessa is dropped there will be a backlash with claims of homophobia.

En So true, but within the confines of once a week for an hour for 30 or so eps a season they were limited in how far they could take the story away from the leads. That was a problem for all the primetime soaps. Agree, Cathy Podewell was great and made it work. Totally different character from Sue Ellen Part of that was that the writers had a limited view of the character. Lucy was the teen vamp in their eyes and never went beyond that which didn't fit as the character aged. I don't know why they married her to Mitch, a doctor? Their story was always islanded and treated as filler. Surely it would have made more sense for Lucy to hook up with a businessman involved in the oil business. That would keep her in the thick of things. Charlene and Larry had great chemistry. I guess they decided to go in a different direction as Barbara was irreplaceable but it was a bone headed move. I always wondered how Hope Lange would have worked as Ellie Giving JR a son was a smart move but several seasons too late. Having Sue Ellen move into the lingerie business was amusing but ultimately led nowhere. Again she should have been involved with something that kept her within the Ewing circle. Giving JR a son was a good move but several seasons too late.

I guess P&G and NBC both wanted AW to succeed, and at that point it was still struggling. Remember in those days P&G had a policy that none of its sponsored shows could compete with one another so there was no issue there. I think Agnes Nixon was writing both shows so that was another reason to do it. My questions regarding the crossover. Was Mike appearing on TGL before he arrived in Bay City? I think he had been offsreen on TGL after his marriage to Julie. Did he return to TGL for a while and then announce his move to AW or just turn up on AW and maybe a mention on TGL that Mike has taken up a new job...

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Wk 1 85/86 Season. Note that some series had their premieres the previous week. Shows yet to debut CBS Crazy Like A Fox Trapper John MD Kate & Allie Newhart Cagney & Lacey Simon & Simon Falcon Crest NBC Silver Spoons Riptide Misfits of Science ABC Benson The Colbys 1. The Cosby Show NBC 31.6/48 2. Family Ties NBC 29.6/45 3. Dynasty ABC 28.1/42 4. Cheers NBC 26.0/39 5. Amos CBS 24.5/37 6. Murder, She Wrote CBS 24.4/37 7. Dallas CBS 23.9/38 8. Miami Vice NBC 23.237 9. Night Court NBC 22.9/34 10. 60 Minutes CBS 222/38 11. Family Ties Vacation NBC 22.1/33 12. Amazing Stories NBC 22.0/34 13. Knots Landing CBS 21.8/34 14. Hotel ABC 21.3/35 15. Highway to Heaven NBC 20.9/33 16, First Blood NBC 20.9/31 17. Who's the Boss? ABC 20.4/33 18. Alfred Hitchcock NBC 20.2/30 19. A Team NBC 20.0/31 20. Golden Girls NBC 19.0/32 21. Growing Pains ABC 18.5/28 22. Remington Steele NBC 18.0/30 23. Hill Street, Blues NBC 18.0/28 24. Izzy & Moe CBS 17.9/27 25. Football, LA. Rams -Seattle ABC 17.9/29 26. Twilight Zone CBS 17.7/30 27. Moonlighting ABC 17.6/27 28. Facts of Life NBC 17.5/30 29. Magnum, CBS 17.4/26 30. Scarecrow & Mrs. King CBS 17.4/26 31. TV Bloopers & Prac. Jokes NBC 17.2/26 32. Football, Sun. 7 -7:18 p.m. NBC 16.8/31 33.Tootsie ABC 18.0/25 34. Nat. Lampoon -Vacation CBS 15.6/27 35. 227 NBC 15.6/26 36. Helltown NBC 15.1/22 37. The Insiders ABC 14.9/24 38. Gimme A Break NBC 14.8/27 39. Hardcastle & McCormick ABC 14.8/23 40. 20/20 ABC 14.6/23 41. Equalizer CBS 14.3/23 42. Knight Rider NBC 14.1/24 43. Hunter NBC 14.0/25 43.Webster ABC 13.8/24 44.St. Elsewhere NBC 13.8/23 45. The Other Lover CBS 13.8/22 46. Love Boat ABC 12.8/22 47. Lime Street ABC 12.3/21 48. Alrwolf CBS 12.0/21 49. NFL Post -game NBC 11.7/22 50. Our Family Honor ABC 11.7/20 51. Mr. Belvedere ABC 11.8/19 52. Lady Blue ABC 11.4/17 53. MacGyver ABC 10.9/17 54. George Burns Comedy CBS 10.8/16 55. Punky Brewster NBC 10.5/18 56. Charlie & Co. CBS 10.5/16 57. Hollywood Beat ABC 9.1/16 58. Stir Crazy CBS 9.0/14 59. Diffrent Strokes ABC 9.0/14 60. Ripley's Believe It or Not ABC 8.6/15 61. Hometown ABC 7.9/12 62.Fall Guy ABC 7.9/12 63.Spenser: For Hire ABC 6.3/10

Somebody didn't think that Jo's full name was Joanne? Having a Jo and a Joanna on at the same time probably wasn't the best idea.

Peggy Allenby By Kathleen Norris 'The Black Fleming' Lily Fleming Charpentier Romance of Helen Trent 1945 Lorenzo Jones 1949 Just Plain Bill 1954 Life Can Be Beautiful Louise Kimball Markham My True Story 1955 Whispering Streets 1955

I posted this in the ATWT thread but I think it deserves a place here also. P Jay Sidney was the second actor to portray Dr Bellows on ATWT, The first was Brock Peters. He is quoted her from a TV Guide article titled ' What the Negro Wants From TV' 20th Jan 1968. Sidney left I believe, when he was not offered a contract. Irna Phillips was writing at this time. I previously read that she refused to write blacks into the series as servants/janitors etc. This is Sidney's take on his stint. Sidney sites his own experiences last spring when he was hired as a regular in an important supporting role on the popular daytime soap ATWT “I was supposed to be a research physician in that series,” he says, “and yet, emotionally and dramatically, I didn't exist as a person. My whole function in those 14 segments was getting a white boy out of jail. I was a non-person in the plot with no life of my own. I didn't have any problems. There were no things about which I was personally glad or sad, nothing to which I personally aspired. I had no past, no future , no family. I only existed for that white boy. I was, in other words an auxiliary, not a person.” His tone suddenly becomes vehement. “Hell”, he explodes, “life isn't just going to a laboratory everyday.”

Well, better than nothing. They desperately need more sets. Seeing Society and the Grizzly Pumpkin day after day is too much. I guess COVID is a part of the problem but the budget must have been severely slashed. Moses is cute but I hate the hair...

Seeing Tricia and Eileen pop in makes me feel for Doug Davidson. I know the situations are different, as Nina and Ashley are attached to a front burner story, but Paul could have been involved in the Rey poisoning debacle.

Ed Jerome Society Girl Dwight Barrington Pepper Young's Family 1941 This Day Is Ours Rev McDonald Valiant Lady 1945 Story of Bess Johnson 1942 Second Husband By Kathleen Norris 'Josselyn's Wife' Thomas Josselyn Young Widder Brown 1951 My True Story 1955 TV Pilots/Proposals The Heart Of Juliet Jones Norman Palmer 1954

No way would a soap have gay siblings. Two gay characters to deal with who can't be involved with each other? Dealing with those issues you mentioned?Not happening.

I wouldn't think so. Even if asked I don't think Meg would be interested in going to a low rated NY based show. Was Meg writing for Y&R at this point? Meg was from a different era of the show. She portrayed Liza Walton Kaslo who seemed like a different character to Liza Sentell. Only Larry Haines remained of her family from her time on the show.

1963 press release showing how little Jada was all grown up now...

I guess there is a place for playfulness on the set, especially in the high pressure environment of live to tape soaps, but I wonder how much is too much? We've seen evidence of how performers would camp up their line readings in rehearsal to let off steam but were Coster's/Considine's 'pranks' during actual tapings? Hopefully not.

Mmmm...maybe Team Bev on this one. I recall how he and Considine were the practical jokers on the set. That can get a little tedious after a while, when you are supposed to be on board with somebody else's idea of fun.

The Mary Stuart sketch bears no resemblance whatsoever!