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oh man, my heart hurts just watching this old clip. Cannot imagine how this month is going to play out .

That soapvision audio tweet says at the very end "Deke, meanwhile, immediately recognizes Luna and is clearly not happy to see her in their apartment". Deadline said the new character has a close tie to a "major B&B character". So then hmmmmm who is Deke really? If he's "Little D", I don't know how he would know Luna, unless he's seen photos of her on whatever social media Deacon might have? or maybe he follows Sheila's social media, since Sheila is Deacon's wife.

Well, to be fair, I had been enjoying BTG since its inception. I can deal with Ashley being annoying because I can fastforward her without it having much impact. It's just the Leslie stuff that I find awful. LeslieDana is so intertwined with the canvas-- that when I skip over her scenes, I have to read the recaps to follow what the other characters are reacting to. I just find Leslie overthetop insane and having *way* too much influence on the canvas for my taste. I used to like Eva but her constant support of Leslie makes me dislike her now. I enjoyed the Nicole-Smitty scenes at the start of the episode, a lot! I do think the show is great overall. I just cannot take Leslie.

I didn't watch the rest, it was obvious what Leslie planned to do and no way would I ever watch that. I just read that Samantha wants to ask advice from June? WTF? What a disaster of an episode.

I not going to watch the rest of this episode live. Not worth it. Life is too short.

I liked the Smitty-Nicole conversation. Unlike some posters here, I actually like the June character (even though I hate how they wrote her as the biomom of Samantha and Tyrell.) But (for me) today, the Leslie scenes, the Ted scenes, and the Leslie/Eva scenes are complete cringe. Who thought any of that would be entertaining? Ashley/Derek stuff is just a no. No patience to watch that.

Leslie is literally tr0lling Vernita by stating she intends to install a tr0ll bridge on the property across the street.

https://bsky.app/profile/kevinmkruse.bsky.social/post/3lyqakji2n22q Essay on this topic by Kevin M. Kruse https://campaign-trails.ghost.io/the-white-civility-council/

A.I. bots spreading faked reports of celebrities praising Charlie Kirk Example of hoax #1 https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2025/09/fact-check-nfl-stars-did-not-make-300000-donations-to-charlie-kirk-family.html Example of hoax #2 https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2025/09/fact-check-paul-mccartney-tribute-charlie-kirk-on-september-11.html Example of hoax #3 https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2025/09/fact-check-dale-earnhardt-jr-statement-charlie-kirk-shooter-absolutely-ready.html

https://deadline.com/2025/07/beyond-the-gates-creator-michele-val-jean-interview-1236472528/ VAL JEAN: I think it’s good to have a social media presence, and I always have, but it’s challenging in my new role as a creator and head writer. It’s tempting to respond to criticism. But I really have to stop myself, especially if somebody’s being loud and wrong. It’s really hard to say no, but I think I’m getting better at it. I try to go on when I think there’s something that I need to say. DEADLINE: Like, for example, when you made the change with the Ted Richardson character? VAL JEAN: I did not respond to any of it because it’s a personal matter to the show and to the actor, and it’s really not my place to comment on it, so I just didn’t say anything. People were very upset, but what can I say? What can you say? Sometimes changes get made.

As mentioned upthread, the reference in the Parade article is at 14:23 of this video

@JAS0N47's tribute to Bobby Hart (includes the Variety obituary plus info on the DAYS theme, and some other background music Bobby Hart wrote for DAYS) https://boards.soapoperanetwork.com/topic/38014-days-behind-the-scenes-articlesphotos/page/499/#findComment-2050847

One of Derek's firefighter buddies accompanied him to the hospital from the accident site at the triathalon. But nobody since then.

Oh I totally agree!

These links explain how a parent can forget their child is in the car https://www.cbc.ca/radio/outintheopen/make-it-right-1.4889628/you-live-in-hell-every-day-the-tragedy-of-forgetting-your-child-in-the-car-1.4897936 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_vehicular_heat_stroke_deaths

"Deke" ? A reference to Deacon? Could he be "Little D" ? https://web.archive.org/web/20210619030910/soapcentral.com/bb/whoswho/ericiii.php

Judith Light's essay in the New York Times, September 12, 2017, about leaving OLTL. https://web.archive.org/web/20171104034232/https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/12/arts/television/judith-light-the-first-time-i-quit-a-big-job.html (apologies if this was already posted in this thread)

From the conversation between Samantha and her study date: "If you'll talk about Nella Larsen, I'll do the part about Zora Neale Hurston." I love it when BTG makes me look things up and learn something I didn't know. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nella_Larsen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zora_Neale_Hurston

Those spoilers seem to imply that the video preview scene of Ted/Leslie in bed is real and not a dream/fantasy/nightmare. (sigh) On B&B, in the past, after viewers have watched nonconsensual scenes that are legally rape, Bradley Bell usually says in interviews later on that it was fine, and denies it was rape. For BTG, if Leslie drugs Ted to get him into bed, then at least we know that Michele Val Jean won't try to wave it away. Either it's rape due to nonconsensual sexual contact, or nothing happens except sleep but Leslie lies and says something happened. Either way, I think Ted is under the influence.

Kat's wardrobe from Friday Sept 12 (Sometimes I check both wornontv.net and shopyourtv.com, because they sometimes list different stores that sell the items) All of it: https://wornontv.net/537406/ and individually Top and skirt https://www.shopyourtv.com/beyond-the-gates-september-2025-kat-richardsons-grey-off-the-shoulder-crop-top-and-mini-skirt/ hat https://www.shopyourtv.com/beyond-the-gates-september-2025-kat-richardsons-black-cap-hat/ purse https://www.shopyourtv.com/beyond-the-gates-september-2025-kat-richardsons-black-horsebit-bag-2/ And since several posters commented on her hat -- Versions of the hat from the designer's website https://ruslanbaginskiy.com/collections/ruslan-baginskiy-baker-boy-cap

I kinda want that sweater! hahah @janea4old any idea where to find it? https://wornontv.net/537110/ and https://www.shopyourtv.com/beyond-the-gates-september-2025-chelsea-hamiltons-beige-printed-sweatshirt/