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Anything redeeming about Babe was because of AH, but god, that character and her mother were such a cancer to AMC in its waning and final decade on the air. McTavish really went overboard in her last stint to prop those characters and make them happen to the detriment of that entire show.

Most TV shows on primetime or streaming (or movies for that matter) don't really get exhaustive promo these days, it's usually a few weeks (or a month or so in advance) when things start to heat up and a press tour is done and spirals into other things.

CBS will probably devote one of the last episodes of The Talk to introducing the cast of The Gates, maybe alongside MVJ. The hosts will pretend like they’re not bitter about being replaced, and Sheryl can do her fake act about how much she’s looking forward to it and will be watching from day 1.

Honestly, I think KL also flew a bit under the radar for a lot of its long run. Maybe not being the type of pop cultural sensations Dallas and Dynasty were at their peaks was a benefit to KL in the long run. It managed to cultivate a loyal following who supported and sustained it even after its commercial peak vs. the type of massive collapse Dallas and Dynasty experienced after their unimaginable ratings peaks.

Maga Martha needs to realize that Trump and his base don’t give a f.uck about how guilty her dumb ass husband is and will not waste a pardon on him if he’s elected again.

Disney had joint ownership of Lifetime (with Hearst), makes sense to tap into their soap opera IP for their low-budget franchises.

Women of color are uniquely positioned to take on and handle bullies like Trump, given all the sh!t they have to deal with from society and forces that wish to erase them from every narrative. Kamala knew what she was getting into and her experience likely positioned her to strategically navigate through Trump’s old gimmicks.

Please let January’s debut of the first network daytime soap created by a black woman coincide with the inauguration of the first US black woman president…..

Ha!

And he's bombed the same way in ALL of his 3 stints on this show, yet keeps on getting hired back and allowed to fail.

Jean speaks about MSW here, but it's phrased as her "turning it down" because she didn't think the role was the right fit for her. And Angela talks about the MSW audience here:

I haven't seen her on anything in years - was the Southern bumpkin accent she used as Babe her real voice, or just an accent she was using? That wouldn't work for Lulu...

I don't have anything against Alexa, so we'll see what she can do with the role. I knew Jen Landon was not a possibility, though lol.

The irony is Lorimar also produced some of those awful TGIF sitcoms. It’s important to note that Dallas made Friday nights a big night. By the time the show had deteriorated in the late 80’s, Friday nights no longer had that type of viewership. Those were typically reserved for programming on Tuesdays and Thursdays. While Family Matters eventually won that timeslot, that show itself was a niche hit as was the entire TGIF block (even if it was a 90’s staple), which makes the fall for Dallas look even worse in retrospect.

Angela always maintained that Madison Ave, Nielsen, and CBS misunderstood the demographics of the show and why MSW was such a massive success on Sunday nights. I tend to think she's absolutely correct - like soaps, I think many in my generation watched alongside older relatives and it became a sort of staple in our Sunday night ritual, lol. Nielsen might have told a different story, but the fact Lansbury once had the highest Q rating in all of Primetime also meant she had some broad appeal outside of just the grannies and people in the nursing homes...

These character descriptions' seem very well thought out and specific, which is very good and gives me a lot of hope. This part of Cheryl's description almost made me spit out my water when I read it, lol:

I’m sorry but this Lucky and Holly stuff is such a snooze.

None at this point. Both of those pairings have too much baggage to ever really be viable to me again. I think would be interesting to give Liz an older love interest with a troubled daughter around her age that hates her and hates that her father is now in love with someone her age. Think a modern twist on Rachel/Mac/Iris. However, these writers won't invest in writing anything like that.

Wow, this is horrible and the person doing this needs to get a life and spend their time doing more productive sh!t.

And my favorite Blake, Sherry Stringfield, was on both! I never got over her leaving GL, but as a young kid, I was so happy when she landed on ER (I never really watched NYPD Blue). It doesn’t take a whole lot to make us soap fans proud and happy sometimes, lol.

Whether you were a fan or not, I do think Seinfeld and ER earned their right as definitive 90's shows in their respective categories. Not only were they commercially successful pop cultural juggernauts that people/families build their Thursday's around, they were also critically successful and are still held in great regard even today. Speaking of ER, even with the grit and relative medical realness, it could also be a very character-driven/focused and touching show. Mark Greene had one of the best character arcs on all of television, IMO. I can almost tear up right now just thinking about his ultimate death in season 8, and that amazing sequence at the end with his daughter, Rachel, letting go of the balloon (as Mark said she always did when she was younger before he died) as a tribute to her late father and to let him know that she was going to be OK. When it was great, ER had some amazing writing, acting, and directing.

Fraiser is a unique blend of both a family and workplace sitcom to me.

The Q's are also back to treating Tracy like a joke/nuisance, which had shifted slightly when PM was writing.

I'm not going to watch anything when its well document Michael Landon left his children a respectable trust fund. She's not struggling like the average joe trying to make it in Hollywood.