BetterForgotten

She’s the writer’s assistant - she’s not actually doing any writing or crafting long term story.

They’ll inevitably be that young vixen/bitch from the wrong side of the tracks trying to make her way into that family.

The whole show is so unwatchable right now that moments like that are like the only thing to pique my interest.

I think it's a totally different set-up from all we've heard - MVJ is the creator and the one calling the shots on who she wants to work with creatively. This isn't Guza or JHC's show (unless some underhanded shenanigans happen). This vision isn't being filtered through their eyes, so I don't think it's fair to knock them or assume they'll bring the same issues to this show. They may, but we'll have to wait and see it play out first.

Then as someone who has "launched shows" you should know you're at your most comfortable working with people you trust vs. "talent" that corporate America forces you to work with. Just because some of these folks tanked at other shows, it doesn't mean they'll wield the same power on this show or see the same results. Are we past the days of waiting for something to air before judging?

The power structure at this show is quite different. MVJ is clearly surrounding herself with close friends/associates she trusts to help execute her vision. That's par the course for any creator. I think we need to watch this show play out before rushing to any rash conclusions or assumptions.

MVJ is crediting herself as the Creator, HW, and EP of the show. Guza will have an EP credit, but I do wonder if MVJ is leveraging him as more of a Co-HW.

Michele Val Jean also hired someone (Skyy Sandifer) who she worked with on Jamey Giddens’s flop Ambitions. Sandifer’s IMDb page

🤣🤣🤣

I wouldn’t believe all the pro-Valentini/Carlivati propaganda Jamie Giddens/Daytime Confidential were dishing out at that time. OLTL was propped for budget management and still got cancelled at the same time as AMC.

I feel like The Gates will have a slightly different production model vs. the other 4 soaps. We’ll have to wait and see, but I feel like they’re trying to do something slightly different, but still relatable to daytime audiences. I also think shooting in Atlanta will naturally give it a different tone.

I wonder what studio they’ll be using in Atlanta, or if it’s Tyler’s. He did say he hoped to use his studio lot for productions from outside his company as well, namely from other black creatives.

So, did something change here or was CBS reading this thread and decided on Atlanta as the production location? 😁

We also don't really know what that last day of taping really means - is is a planned temporary production halt? If so, how many weeks?

A lot of those people are representing separate corporate interests that are investing in the program like P&G, CBS, and the NAACP. Assuming people like Guza and Carruthers were hired by MVJ to help steer the day to day writing and production, which the corporate representatives are not going to be doing. It's not really typical for daytime, but often done in primetime, streaming, and film.

Michele isn't denying Guza being on her team, but also using the time to correct a GH fan, lol

Michele posted this yesterday, Vivica just turned 60 yesterday, lol

I've said it before, but I really hope they use a similar production technique that The City used. They have access to do it as well with filming being in a big metropolitical area like Atlanta, and access to probably bigger studio space.

Yes, because Sept/October is usually the start of the broadcast calendar.

Yes, or there is a planned production dark period assuming they've stockpiled some episodes for a break.

Debbi Morgan is 67, and I believe resides in Maryland (easy commute to ATL)...

She needs to have YOUNG black writers that she and here team can train on the ins and outs of writing soaps. The unfortunate thing is she does not have an expansive pool of black soap writers who understand the nuts and bolts of the genre to tap into (this is where daytime failed) - but hoping she can use this opportunity as a chance to create opportunities and train up and coming black talent.

We also have confirmation from this source that the show is shooting in Atlanta! @vanguard @Errol