Everything posted by DramatistDreamer
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BOLD Casting News
Trivia: Apparently, Grundy also played a doctor on Y&R? I was probably taking one of my numerous breaks from the show at that time because the only show I remember him from is A Different World where he played Ernest, who dated Freddie Brooks briefly.
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Y&R: December 2023 Discussion Thread
In terms of Cast and her expressive face, I was definitely referencing her time when she was a series regular with actual story, not so much these days. It’s nice to see her interact with LLB but I don’t have much to go on with her and Floyd. Perhaps there is hope for their onscreen chemistry in the future, but it would entail more screen time for both. Years ago, when I watched Jess Walton and Jason Thompson, I got nothing from them (of course, in those days the show had Jill spending far more time with Cane than her own son) but for the first time, while watching Friday’s episode, I saw onscreen chemistry between the two.
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Y&R: December 2023 Discussion Thread
I feel as if the most experienced performers know how to do subtext in various ways, Eileen with her frosty mechanisms, Victoria Rowell with her ad libs, Tricia with her expressive eyes, Jess Walton modulating the tone of her voice, depending on who she’s talking to. They do it because they know the scene needs something extra to add subtext. And know, when filming and production is even more rushed and soap actors don’t really get the time to experiment and try out things with different takes, an actor has to be confident to put a device out there with virtual no rehearsal, it’s almost as daring as live theatre. I wish more of the younger cast would do theatre, it might sharpen their skills,
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Y&R: December 2023 Discussion Thread
This morning, over a late breakfast I watched Friday’s episode and you know what? I was reasonably entertained. Watching Jess Walton interact with Jason Thompson, Peter Bergman and Susan Walters was a large part of it. Maybe because I no longer have any high expectations for this show but I decided to take the episode for what it was: veteran performers who have experience in scene work, so they can fill in the deficiencies that exist in the script to generate more interest without being handheld through the process. Ashley opening up her compact and touching up her makeup, trying to play things cool with Tucker, is one example as I doubt that maneuver was in the actual script. The interactions between characters on this episode were entertaining enough, that it obscured the fact that actual story is paper-thin for this show. Maybe because I have watched this show very inconsistently in the past few years but I even enjoyed the scenes between Cricket and Phyllis and absent were the ticks that Stafford had become infamous for relying on over the years. And I enjoyed the scenes between Danny and Daniel and Danny and Christine and Michael and Phyllis, and Phyllis being self-pitying was true to form, while Michael’s advice to Phyllis to stop comparing her journey to others reminds me of things I have said to various friends who spend too much time on Facebook and complain about their lives in comparison with others, so…relatable. It looks like Monday will feature the Newmans again, so who knows whether the feeling of being entertained by the relatable and realistic will last, it will likely be a return to the bizarro. Y&R over the recent years had often made questionable choices on lighting, makeup and wardrobe but on Friday’s episode, the lighting looked good and I could find no fault with wardrobe or makeup. Jess Walton looked great, I think. Her ensemble had a more tailored, better fit than that brown outfit that they had her in the previous episode that I had watched. Hopefully at the least, tptb can maintain a good level in terms of technical production aspects. I have decided not to put too much emphasis on the sets in this episode, fortunately, the characters interacting with each other entertained me enough that I didn’t have to focus on sets. It looked like in this episode we did get a break from watching characters try to stir their coffee at Crimson Lights though.
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RIP: In Memoriam Thread
R.I.P. to dub poet, activist and artist Benjamin Zephaniah whose poetry I found to be deeply poignant. I am glad people got to know of him through his role on “Peaky Blinders” though that is only a small part of his talents. And I will never not be tickled by the fact that, when offered the OBE, not only did he refuse it, he told everyone to take their Order of the British Empire and “stick” it. We lost him too soon. https://news.yahoo.com/benjamin-zephaniah-news-tributes-pour-053459087.html
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ARTICLE: R.I.P. Ellen Holly — First Black Person to Star in a Daytime Soap Opera Dies at 92
You can absolutely tell that Ms. Holly studied Dunham technique. She had that elegance in the way she held herself but underneath, a fierce and resolute strength.
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RIP: In Memoriam Thread
Complicated is a good word to describe O’Neal and no doubt, his relationships. One of his most complicated relationships were probably with his children. My condolences to them, as they are no doubt wrestling with loss, grief and perhaps a tangle of emotions right now.
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Y&R: December 2023 Discussion Thread
Others may disagree but personally, I am fine with tptb leaving Olivia off the canvas. I just don’t trust JG’s pen. Despite his non-story for Nina and almost nonexistent story for Jill, what makes it tolerable is actually getting to see Jess Walton and Tricia Cast make appearances. With a different actress in the role, it would give even more license for JG’s most errant characterization impulses. The result would like be an unrecognizable character, an Olivia that is pretty much an Olivia in name only. So nah, I’m good.
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Y&R: December 2023 Discussion Thread
Did they never date? They seem like strangers wrangling over property. There’s nothing personal between them. I could’ve sworn that when William Russ was in the role, there was some sort of intimate relationship between Jill and Tucker. There is a frosty hostility between them but it seems more like a woman trying to defend her company from a hostile takeover. There is no indication that they really ever knew each other beyond the level of an acquaintance. Again, odd.
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Y&R: December 2023 Discussion Thread
Are we supposed to pretend that Jill and Tucker were never married? Watching Jill interact with this Tucker, it’s really hard seeing them as ever being married. It makes no sense. It’s odd.
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The Politics Thread
Russia’s latest propaganda project is utterly bizarre. This is a gift article. Russia’s Latest Disinformation Tactic Exploits American Celebrities
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Y&R: December 2023 Discussion Thread
Considering the fact that someone like an Audra falls outside the domain of these three families, it’s a miracle that she gets any shine at all. Ordinarily when a character stands out the way that she has, I would give credit to the writing as much as the actor because usually everything is provided on the page but since JG is clearly not intentionally writing for Audra, I give all credit to Zuleyka for making this character stand out, the way that I gave Mishael the credit for making Hilary a standout character. The writing is more an obstacle to their success than an aid. I am definitely referring to the adult versions of these characters when referring to Nate and Chance. The writing hasn’t done a thing with the adult version of a legacy character on Y&R since Colleen Carlton imo.
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Y&R: December 2023 Discussion Thread
Have these characters ever truly been written for in a complete way, the way a Jack Abbott or a Victor Newman has been written for at their age? The writing for Chance and Nate has always been weak. Ronan was a stronger written character than Chance, which is weird since Chance was literally born onscreen and so is Nate but they are two of the weakest written characters on the canvas right now. I have many bones to pick with the writing but it’s no wonder, JG finds it so easy to move these two characters around like chess pieces, they have been weakly written for many years. The way this show seems to place no amount of importance on the role of work, I am really starting to think that it matters little anyway. JG is going to slot them in to suit other characters that he cares more about at this point.
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RIP: In Memoriam Thread
Oh man, Ms. Holly was a pioneer in daytime television history. May she rest in peace. She wasn’t afraid to shake the table and use her status as a pioneer to illuminate all of her experiences in daytime soaps, regardless of whether she ruffled feathers. It’s not silly at all. I had really become acquainted with her via her interviews with the We Love Soaps blog and Roger Newcomb (the daytime soaps industry owes him a debt of gratitude for his contribution and scholarship on the genre) . When TOLN/PP version of OLTL came out, I had this wish that somehow Corbin Bleus character would be tied to her. I guess I’m also silly.
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Y&R: December 2023 Discussion Thread
Even something tangentially connected to medicine but more cutting edge. I don’t know, for someone who is said to not have been invested in the profession, he seemed to have spent an awful lot of time mourning the loss of his medical career. If he wasn’t truly passionate and about medicine, this is a drama, someone should have written a kick-ass monologue with him saying that it was his mother’s passion, not his and he wanted to maintain that connection to his mother but now his hand has freed him from his ties. Instead, we get this vague drift toward a vague corporate career, where he is willing to become a lackey at Newman, and for what? He knows Newman is a Newman first company, what exactly would he have gotten out of it? Nate, a man smart enough to be a well-regarded, skilled practitioner of medicine couldn’t figure that out? He’s being written as a moron. At least if he is involved in something cutting edge med-tech, it would make sense. Anachronistic podcasts and bland marketing ideas are really not any better, they’re worse. Sleeping with Victoria? He didn’t need to work at Newman to do that, lol. Nate’s career is shapeless, vague and boring. It;s colorless, kind of what he is these days.
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Y&R: December 2023 Discussion Thread
Didn’t Nate just exclaim that he was a doctor and that his first instinct was to treat someone who was ailing? So we’re just going to completely disregard all that time training? I know people who have been premed, a couple of whom actually took the MCATs, went to medical school, did internships, residency…that’s an enormous amount of time and work, it seems unrealistic to me that someone would completely toss that away for a vague marketing career.
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Y&R: December 2023 Discussion Thread
JMO but, to me, shifting Nate away from medicine feels worse and more haphazard than shifting Chance away from police work. Hasn’t Nate been a doctor longer than Chance has been a cop? When Jill told Chance that the Chancellor in Chancellor-Winters is his birthright, I mean, she wasn’t wrong. In a way, medicine is Nate’s birthright, it is his connection to his mother who we unfortunately, no longer see. At least we get occasional visits from Nina. For some reason, it doesn’t bother me as much that they are shifting Chance and at least working in his family’s field, they won’t send him begging hat in hand to the self-righteous and hypocritical Newmans for a career. Ridiculous. With as many times as Adam has slithered back into Victor’s good graces, I found it insulting that he was lecturing Devon on not allowing Nate back into Chancellor-Winters. Hmph. Nathan Sr. was never an office cog, and he liked to get into things {“get his hands dirty, so to speak), I don’t see him spending his days being tethered to a desk in corporate America. Also, how much influence did Nathan really have on shaping Nate as a person when Nate was so young when his dad died? I would think Olivia would have been instrumental in shaping who he became.
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Y&R: December 2023 Discussion Thread
An office, a cubicle, a chair, whatever. The crux of my argument is that they really don’t need a hospital set to keep Nate connected to the medical field, a little imagination could keep him connected to the profession he devoted so much time, effort, money and intellectual focus to something that requires such a specialized set of skills. It’s weird the way that he has been shifted out of medicine and health care and for what? Some vague marketing job? Going hat in hand to the same pseudo corporations begging for an opportunity? Man, they really did sever him from any attributes of his dad and especially his mom, didn’t they? Haha, that was my donation. An actual fully fledged storyline would be a totally different matter. There is a character from Frasier, an insurance claims adjuster who takes a fall in his apartment and when they take her to the hospital and the doctor starts to say something like “Oh-oh” or something like that, the insurance claims adjuster jumps all over him and says something like “What?! Did you do something wrong? Because I will sue blue, buddy boy!” Fraser’s totally taken aback by this ruthless display. That’s the thing that jumped into my head, lol.
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Y&R: December 2023 Discussion Thread
Thanks for the compliment.😊 They better not steal my ideas or I’ll sue though.😜
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2023 Writers + Actors Strike Thread
Probably marking themselves as “present” like those Congressmen do when they don’t want to take a vote either way.👀
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2023 Writers + Actors Strike Thread
Wow, I had completely forgotten about this until this morning. This took quite some time to wind its way through the ranks, which tells me that it must have taken awhile to enough of a consensus before a final vote among the actors. Also, it’s a lot of actors to try to wrangle.