Everything posted by DramatistDreamer
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Y&R: January 2024 Discussion Thread
Also, unless I’m mistaken, PB arrived at Y&R the same year Y&R first ascended to be the #1 daytime soap. He benefited from Y&R’s new status imo. The writing for PB’s Jack was an easy layup, it leaned heavily on PB’s ability to turn on the waterworks but imo, the writing became too heavily reliant on PB’s saccharine weepy portrayal of Jack Abbott.
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Film Awards Thread
You are absolutely correct about this assertion. Promising Young Woman alone built up a reserve of awards goodwill. Hollywood is fickle though, so who knows how long this will last? Today’s Emerald Fennell may very well become tomorrow’s Diablo Cody, who although still doing work, is just no longer a film industry darling. I also think Fennell’s British-ness also tends to automatically elevate her creative ideas in the minds of the industry people.
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ALL: Soap Stars - Where are they now?
Alec Baldwin has been re-charged with involuntary manslaughter in the shooting of cinematographer Halyna Hutchins on the set of the film Rust. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/alec-baldwin-recharged-involuntary-manslaughter-1235598303/
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The Tennis Thread
Oh, he was definitely the one I was referring to as possible jail time but you’re likely correct to say that it will probably be some kind of probation or suspended sentence or some combination of the two. I didn’t see any of the post match interviews but I read that a reporter asked him about the case/allegations and he looked bewildered and caught off guard by the questions. Surely, he had to expect that someone sometime would ask him about this.
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The Tennis Thread
Did anyone see the Sabalenko vs Tsurenko match? What the heck happened there?! Seems like there is a recent trend of tennis players going to prison, narrowly avoiding prison, or under threat of possible prison time. Sanchez Vicario was known for being so clever on court, apparently not so much IRL.
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The Politics Thread
I posted my thoughts on what I believed could be the most likely scenario that could expand the war into a regional conflict and I still believe this. Pakistan and India, which had conflicts and skirmishes since the partition of the Indian subcontinent are both nuclear armed nations. I could be mistaken but I don’t see Pakistan as being politically cohesive enough to go farther than occasional air strikes (which, to be fair is unnerving enough as it is). Iran seems to be spreading its influence very thin these days as they seem to be behind a number of conflicts in the region. Perhaps this will sap some of their focus and military power, who knows?
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The Tennis Thread
^^Wow, that is very sad. Was heat a complicating factor at all?
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Y&R/B&B: January 2024 Spoilers
I agree with those who think the plaque with Sharon Newman was a bit weird. It makes Nick look especially presumptuous gifting it to her and I realize that wasn’t the intention but logically, it makes Nick look rather presumptuous. Most of the greater GC area would know Sharon already so she wouldn’t need to affix the Newman name/brand to her new company, especially considering the fact that the last time Sharon Newman was in charge at a high powered corporation (i.e. Newman) it was as Mrs. Victor Newman, ranting and raving around the Newman boardroom. I would think they’d want to shed Sharon of that Newman association based on that alone and allow her to begin anew. The subtext of Nick gifting Sharon that plaque with “Newman”, not Rosales or at least Collins as her identity, makes him look territorial, like he’s staking his claim. I can see why some viewers are jumping to conclusions regarding a possible reunion between the two.
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ALL: Soap Stars - Where are they now?
This looks like a “The Devil Wears Prada” meets the art gallery world but it was probably fun and a healthy paycheck for Marisa Tomei (Marcy Thompson, ATWT)
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The Tech Thread
Not sure how long this will be the case but… https://www.reuters.com/technology/microsoft-overtakes-apple-worlds-most-valuable-company-2024-01-11/
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The Tennis Thread
This is exactly how it looked on YouTube. I clicked on late, so I missed most of the draw unveiling but I am glad because, I wouldn’t have been able to stand watching this for 30-45 minutes, it’s headache inducing.
- Y&R: January 2024 Discussion Thread
- As The World Turns Discussion Thread
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The Tennis Thread
Is anyone watching the draw ceremony? I am watching the Australian Open livestream on YouTube and people are complaining about the screen resolution, with some asking in a mocking tone whether it’s being livestreamed in 360p. The names on the draw board are impossible to read. Maybe those watching on a network are getting closeups.
- Y&R: January 2024 Discussion Thread
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As The World Turns Discussion Thread
Thanks @Soapsudsthat was truly a joy to watch. Excellent find. Seeing the set pieces made me a little misty-eyed. It was also great to see a great conversation between actors and the head writer- they genuinely seemed to enjoy sitting down and talking about their show. And yes, that clip of Marland talking about daytime soaps acting ashamed of their roots seems especially relevant like @DRW50 said. Someone needs to send a clip of that discussion, especially that snippet across social media and to every soap vlogger out there. Wasn’t Hendrickson also a caregiver to two family members who were gravely ill? As someone who was a caregiver to loved one who passed away less than a year ago, I can tell you that it can leave a deep and painful impact that you struggle with, it can also be depressing and if you don’t get help, devastating, I would imagine.
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The Tennis Thread
^^Those are names that I had forgotten existed. And when did Christina McHale retire? I haven’t thought about these folks in years!
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As The World Turns Discussion Thread
Only a couple of years at most and the chess matches were sprinkled throughout the last year or so, which is enough to establish a bond between characters. It’s the reason why I think when soap fans make excuses for these writers who can’t even write a decent story that sees family members interact on a regular basis, I always see them as being full of sh*t. It doesn’t take a superbowl budget to write a handful of mini scenes and sprinkle them in on occasion. Yes, you have to plan them but it’s not rocket science. I do think Marland may have been trying to write against type, go against the expected route. Hal would have been the expected choice-beer loving, bowling and avid sports fan, a blue collar cop who openly was unrefined and often felt awkward about fitting into Barbara’s world. I think that’s why Paul was probably made the homophobic one in the piece. No one would really expect the son of a fashion designer, especially one so young (with the assumption that his youth and milieu would make him more socially progressive). I also think, Marland probably realized that because Paul was so callow, he could more easily reform Paul’s prejudices without permanent damage to the character, whereas with Hal, who knows? I think that the Kirk Anderson character was able to reform from his homophobia but he was a jerk at that time, he wasn’t supposed to be seen as the kind of guy that Hal was.
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As The World Turns Discussion Thread
I remember that. I appreciated and liked that the storytelling made space for showing the multi-layered personality of Barbara, she could be more than one thing at a time, she could show different parts of herself. Still another side came out when she began to date Hal Munson. I also loved that the writing made space to develop a relationship between Andy and Bob’s parents by the time of Chris’ passing, Andy’s grief felt genuine. They used to show Andy on his way to play chess with Chris (and sometimes even Steve), so those characters bonded. I really miss when characters had that type of communal connection. In todays soaps, so many characters are siloed. Did Hank come out to Barbara on one of their trips to NYC? It’s not clear in my mind but I feel like I saw some episode years ago. Unfortunately there are a number of episodes that got pulled over the years, for one reason or another.
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As The World Turns Discussion Thread
HBS said as much a few years ago, without explicitly saying so. She seemed to take it in stride with good humor but even through her diplomatic words, he seemed to act a bit like a petulant jerk to her in her earliest days in the role. It seemed like she was hazed too. They probably didn’t take hazing as seriously back then but what she described as a playful prank by Deas definitely comes off as hazing by today’s standards. https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2F1982-Christie-Brothers-Fur-Coat-Fashion-NY-Woman-Vintage-Photo-PRINT-AD-1980s-%2F263460920582%3F_ul%3DIL&psig=AOvVaw33t7urZqjEqUtigZGHmQWz&ust=1704904360466000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CBIQjRxqFwoTCKCTze_d0IMDFQAAAAAdAAAAABAE
- As The World Turns Discussion Thread
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Film Awards Thread
Although, it can be viewed differently— that ratings were so poor last year that this year was a marked improvement. Still pales in comparison to 2020 ratings.
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When and Why did Soaps Start Making Fun of Themselves? And has That Trend Led to the End??
Never forget that at one time many of these shows were cash cows for the companies that produced them as well as the networks that broadcast them. Something else that hasn’t really been mentioned but should be factored in is the fact that these shows were ostensibly created to sell product, so the intersection of commerce and entertainment was very strong, and unlike other shows of the period (variety shows etc), it seems like the people who produce these soaps never quite got past the mentality that nowadays the entertainment aspect should take a higher priority than the commercial aspect.
- As The World Turns Discussion Thread
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When and Why did Soaps Start Making Fun of Themselves? And has That Trend Led to the End??
Someone posted an early 1980s episode of As The World Turns over the weekend and I posted my appreciation for the detail contained in a sequence involving a veteran actress on the show. The intricate camera work highlighting the actress’ facial expressions, the subtle music. It was so subtle that, if you didn’t know what to look for, it might pass unnoticed but for me, the timing of it all…it was art! Do the people making these shows today believe that they are genuinely making art?