13 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

I'm wondering what restrictions Jamey and Dan will be working under and what changes they can make.

The budget is unlikely to increase.

Will this mean?

-They are restricted in daily set use and will have to use the meeting places -GCAC, Society, Crimson Lights on a daily basis

-Only a certain number of actors can be used in each episode, which in combination with the set situation puts action pretty much at a standstill.

-Actors can not be used beyond guarantees, so those on a 1 a week cannot be seen more than an average of 4 times a month and if used more then have to be offscreen for a while to compensate

- Day players, under 5's and extras again must be at a minimum.

-Emphasis must be on long running characters who have been frontburner for years-Victor, Nikki, Jack, Victoria, Phyllis, Kyle, Sharon

If that's what they face I really can't see room for much improvement ... hopefully the stories will be better but the execution will still be lacking.

If these restrictions must stay in place, it is still possible to make the show more compelling. Maybe not Bill Bell quality, but still compelling. However, it is going to take strong leadership from the executive producer to help the writers bring their vision (or at least a version or their vision) to reality. In other words, the executive producer will need strong problem-solving skills. Plus the executive producer and the head writers will need to support each other and work as a team. There are many good storylines that can be brought to life without a huge budget and without dozens of new sets. The new powers that be at Y&R need to be good at thinking outside the box. I wish them luck and good fortune, and I'm looking forward optimistically.

59 minutes ago, Tisy-Lish said:

If these restrictions must stay in place, it is still possible to make the show more compelling. Maybe not Bill Bell quality, but still compelling. However, it is going to take strong leadership from the executive producer to help the writers bring their vision (or at least a version or their vision) to reality. In other words,the executive producer will need strong problem-solving skills. Plus the executive producer and the head writers will need to support each other and work as a team. There are many good storylines that can be brought to life without a huge budget and without dozens of new sets. The new powers that be at Y&R need to be good at thinking outside the box. I wish them luck and good fortune, and I'm looking forward optimistically.

I mean just about anything would be an improvement from scene after scene of people sitting in a cafe/restaurant plotting to take over some company we don't care about!

1 hour ago, 1974mdp said:

I mean just about anything would be an improvement from scene after scene of people sitting in a cafe/restaurant plotting to take over some company we don't care about!

Absolutely correct.

16 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

I'm wondering what restrictions Jamey and Dan will be working under and what changes they can make.

The budget is unlikely to increase.

Will this mean?

-They are restricted in daily set use and will have to use the meeting places -GCAC, Society, Crimson Lights on a daily basis

-Only a certain number of actors can be used in each episode, which in combination with the set situation puts action pretty much at a standstill.

-Actors can not be used beyond guarantees, so those on a 1 a week cannot be seen more than an average of 4 times a month and if used more then have to be offscreen for a while to compensate

- Day players, under 5's and extras again must be at a minimum.

-Emphasis must be on long running characters who have been frontburner for years-Victor, Nikki, Jack, Victoria, Phyllis, Kyle, Sharon

If that's what they face I really can't see room for much improvement ... hopefully the stories will be better but the execution will still be lacking.

It's for this post that I hope that Jamey and Dan prove that it's possible to write a good show and have all of those restrictions in place. I've said it in the past about other things and we could use a recent example of it being done. So they can be it!

They can also prove that Josh was just burned out if it turns out those restrictions were not really restricting after all.

Christine/Danny 'fun stuff' is not what Y&R needs at this point.

Jason Thompson also posted something about exciting stories coming for Billy in a video on X. I’ll let the people who actually know how to post videos on here share that though so I don’t know how, lmao.

A thought I keep coming back to is that people often talk about Bill Bell through rose colored lenses. He knew when the show needed a jolt, and was not above doing something trashy at times, or outlandish. If they can reinvigorate the stories with something even slightly fresh, and reinvest in characterization, this will be worth watching again!

As far as the budget constraints, daytime shows used to film with two wall sets and the actors wore their own clothes, and had a much larger audience than they do now. But they told stories back then, so let’s try that again!

9 hours ago, Ryanc2 said:

Jason Thompson also posted something about exciting stories coming for Billy in a video on X. I’ll let the people who actually know how to post videos on here share that though so I don’t know how, lmao.

found it on his instagram
https://www.instagram.com/p/DczqY4ep3mO/

1 hour ago, janea4old said:

found it on his instagram
https://www.instagram.com/p/DczqY4ep3mO/

And truth be told, I don’t love Billy. He hasn’t seemed enthusiastic about his storylines in years though so maybe this is a good sign?

So far what’s confirmed is that Danny & Christine have stuff coming up, and Billy. I am sure we will learn more about the new material as this month goes on. I really hope they are balancing these stories out with stories for younger characters too.

1 hour ago, janea4old said:

found it on his instagram
https://www.instagram.com/p/DczqY4ep3mO/

I'm in the second category. 😅

8 hours ago, titan1978 said:

A thought I keep coming back to is that people often talk about Bill Bell through rose colored lenses. He knew when the show needed a jolt, and was not above doing something trashy at times, or outlandish. If they can reinvigorate the stories with something even slightly fresh, and reinvest in characterization, this will be worth watching again!

As far as the budget constraints, daytime shows used to film with two wall sets and the actors wore their own clothes, and had a much larger audience than they do now. But they told stories back then, so let’s try that again!

The David Kimball story alone had outlandish and trashy moments... and Brad held prisoner in a cage/jail cell by his unbalanced ex wife Lisa was another memorable moment. And Marge... anyone?

Bill Bell did know how to tell a story, and he managed to balance those outlandish moments with non outlandish moments.

With that said, back in the day a lot was made about his preoccupation with blondes and how all the blondes looked like one another. Eileen Davidson, I remember, dyed her hair an auburn brown randomly for a time and Tracey Bregman ended going a darker red/brown because her hair ended up overly processed.

With that said, time will tell if these newest head writers can make a go of it. If Sony still has final say, things might only improve slightly.

Edited September 4Sep 4 by Soaplovers

Those are three characters I don’t care to see if I’m being honest but I’m going to give the new writers a chance.

How far does Y&R tape ahead? I don't think they're taping the new writers' material right now.

1 minute ago, Toups said:

How far does Y&R tape ahead? I don't think they're taping the new writers' material right now.

About 4-5 weeks I think. Tricia Cast posted from the set for her one day appearance and that episode aired about 4 weeks later.

Maybe the new writers are tweaking a few things eg deciding that Stephanie won't continue even if Josh had other plans.