Y&R December 2020 Discussion Thread

[DramatistDreamer]

I like the way you think, @slick jones
with Y&R hitting such auspicious milestones, a compendium book would be a great idea on and off-screen. I am still disappointed that the show did nothing with the anniversary of the Ruthless book, they could've tied that into Victor's book and Eric's anniversary on the show.

 

I caught a glimpse of an episode and I will say that Tricia and Jess are such pros with a high degree of talent and integrity in their work ethic that they can really do great work, regardless of the circumstances. The dialogue in the scenes between Jack and Jill wasn't great (kind of stilted) but Jess finessed it anyway, and looked great doing it. The fact that Tricia Cast can practically parachute in and have such genuine Mother-Son chemistry with her on-screen son speaks to how good Cast is.

I saw very little of the previous/current contracted "Chance" but he struck me as nothing special. This current on-screen temp seems like a great fit for "Abby". Husbands and Wives don't always work well together, so this is auspicious for the show, which should bring him back, sooner rather than later.

Is MO one of the strongest actresses in daytime television? No. Is she problematic? No. She also has decent chemistry with a number of other actors on the show, so I see no reason for her to go. Keeping her around though, should mean investing in a worthwhile pairing, especially if the writers are not going to bother to write a compelling story for the character on her own.

 

 

Also, count me in among the people who find the Phyllis/Nick scenes weirdly out of place. I know this was supposed to be some kind of B story but it seemed like filler going nowhere fast, at best. And Michelle is back to her giggly acting ticks-- reminded me of the poster (can't recall who though) who referred to her as "Giggly Heffa".

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[slick jones]

Also, I'd add this chickie.....   trying to scoop their book with an expose

 

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[DramatistDreamer]

 

It would've been juicy had they brought back Leanna Love for the Victor stuff or when Hilary was still alive and doing GC Buzz ( for once, providing a useful platform for that set). I think Barbara Crampton's Leanna conspiring with Mishael Morgan as Hilary would've been a lot of fun.

The idea of a new reissue of Ruthless with updated epilogue would've fit right onto the story and added intrigue.

Edited December 2, 2020 by DramatistDreamer

[slick jones]

Since ChanceComm is a media outlet, maybe they could bring Leanna Love out of retirement  and into scenes with attorney Amanda......

[DramatistDreamer]

 

But Amanda is a whole different character than Hilary, is the only issue. Amanda is straight-laced and Hilary was more of a feather ruffler, who reveled in controversy. I liked the idea of them as pot-stirrers, with Hilary on her platform juicing the enmity between Victor and Leanna to gin up ratings for GC Buzz. I'm not sure what storyline they could do with Amanda that wouldn't seemed completely contrived.

Edited December 3, 2020 by DramatistDreamer

[Broderick]

This "Fake Chance" is ten times better than the usual Chance.  

[Paul Raven]

I have to wonder what is planned for Chance and Abby now they have been quickly married off?

A pregnancy story?

They are now just two of many with limited story possibilities.

[Faulkner]

I can’t imagine how crappy it must feel when a temp recast is better received than you are, à la Lindsay Korman/Kelly Monaco on GH or now Justin Gaston/Donny Boaz here.

 

I’ll just say that MO is blessed. Hubby is smokin’ hot.

 

Might I say that Abby/Chance were actually sort of cute and fun today? I don’t usually say that about soap couples these days.

Edited December 3, 2020 by Faulkner

[Faulkner]

Even though the writing here was shallow, Lily and Billy talking about how their parents’ relationships affect their own romantic relationships is the type of conversation I wish more soap characters had more often, and not just as a nod to history during a 12,000 episode week. It’s a conversation real people have.

[DramatistDreamer]

 

That sounds like a reasonable question.

Only having seen one episode in months, I can only think of the dreaded and overused triangle, unfortunately.  Speaking of which, have Chance and Chloe interacted at all since Chance has been back on the canvas? Perhaps only a friendship between Chance and Chloe would be enough to play on any deep-seated insecurities that Abby might have, which could cause some conflict. The only other things that come to mind are that Abby's business falls into crisis and absorbs her time and energy or if Chance has a health relapse of some sort. I'd probably have to actually watch the show to come up with something better.

[Meredith]

I have never liked Lily because she's so stuckup.  She doesn't date black men on the show or in real life.  

[ChickenNuggetz92]

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Edited December 3, 2020 by ChickenNuggetz92

[janea4old]

 

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Wed Dec 2 US epi clip  (sorry this might be geoblocked but hopefully someone downloads/uploads it.)

Each parent remembers their child as a baby (flashback shown!)
and then the camera switches to the child as now adult.

Ashley/Abby

Jack/Kyle

Jill/Billy

Nina/Chance

Victor&Nikki / Victoria / Nick

 

Questions:

 

Nina with baby Chance on her wedding day.  I was expecting them to show her with Ryan (Scott Reeves) ...  Is this Reeves?

Or did they really show Phillip III/ Thom Bierdz?  My guess is that it's Bierdz but they showed only the profile of his face and it was for a split-second.

 

The Victor/Nikki part. Which baby shown is VIctoria, and which is Nick? 

 

Edit to correct Tom Bierdz to Thom Bierdz

Edited December 4, 2020 by janea4old

[DramatistDreamer]

 

That was definitely Thom Bierdz who played Phillip Chancellor III, Chance's biological dad.

Edited December 4, 2020 by DramatistDreamer

[YRfan23]

That's definitely Phillip/Bierdz, that's from Nina and Phillip's wedding from April 3, 1989!

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The baby shown in the first clip is Nicholas and the second is Victoria.