Oh and the fast pace is ridiculous. In one scene Ashley is at Jabott and then in a split second she is at the club and then back to the office. The same for Jack. Are they Superman and Wonder Woman where they can get back that fast to the offices?

 

The board meeting had a lot of vets but mini story is a complete failure.

Today's episode has achieved status as one of the worst episodes in the last ten years on this show.  Nothing touches Latham...yet. But Mal may come close and "Dear God in Heaven" he may quickly surpass Latham's nightmare and plunge the show into the crapper.  In one week, Mal has assassinated Nikki's character, Ash, Jack and even Dina (the bridge game?!).  I'd normally give a new writer six months to a year depending on how bad the previous HW left the show; but the fact that Mal has been there for a few years, and this is what he rolls out?  Long time soap viewers have seen this time and again with non daytime trained folks coming in and overlaying a dumb structure to try to hide lack of creativity.  The actors couldn't even pull of the dialog of Tuesday's episode..so sad to see this.  

Edited December 20, 20178 yr by RavenWhitney

7 minutes ago, RavenWhitney said:

Today's episode has achieved status as one of the worst episodes in the last ten years on this show.  Nothing touches Latham...yet. But Mal may come close and "Dear God in Heaven" he may quickly surpass Latham's nightmare and plunge the show into the crapper.  In one week, Mal has assassinated Nikki's character, Ash, Jack and even Dina (the bridge game?!).  I'd normally give a new writer six months to a year depending on how bad the previous HW left the show; but the fact that Mal has been there for a few years, and this is what he rolls out?  Long time soap viewers have seen this time and again with non daytime trained folks coming in and overlaying a dumb structure to try to hide lack of creativity.  The actors couldn't even pull of the dialog of Tuesday's episode..so sad to see this.  

I can't tell you how bad today's show is coming off to viewers. Viewers are complaining about the rushed scenes, the board meeting, Kyle voting against Jack and Ashley being so cruel to Ravi and Nikki's ridiculous mini story of stealing her own money.

Edited December 20, 20178 yr by Soapsuds

I don't think the show is horrible, but I'm not crazy about the fast pace of it.  The thing I look forward to is Dina's appearances.

There's quickening the pace, but MY is Zooming through scenes, and not to the benefit of the show, the characters, or the audience. That rude Ashley dropping Ravi like a hot potato was far from her character. (I'd expect that from Shari Shattuck's cold-ass Ashley, but not ED's).

 

As others have said, Jill isn't Jill without at least a little scheme. Without it, she's just another dayplayer.

 

The "meet the board members" should have been over the course of one episode, and the board meeting another. ITA Keemo should have cast the vote--and in person. Kyle had no problem with Jack (that I remember).

 

I don't care if the show is fast or slow, just that it makes the beats (which it doesn't), and makes sense (which a lot of is lost in MY's writing). 

I guess Mal never saw Douglas Marland's story on ATWT involving Connor taking over Walsh Enterprises away from Lucinda. That was a true masterpiece story. There was mystery, intrigue and reasoning behind Connor wanting the company. Y&R's had none of that.

Edited December 21, 20178 yr by Soapsuds

It's a sad day when you find out that Pratt did more justice for Jill than Young & Co can. 

On 12/19/2017 at 9:16 PM, Soapsuds said:

I guess Mal never saw Douglas Marland's story on ATWT involving Connor taking over Walsh Enterprises away from Lucinda. That was a true masterpiece story. There was mystery, intrigue and reasoning behind Connor wanting the company. Y&R's had no of that.

 

Gosh that was a great business story that ended up having a ton of emotional resonance and leading to learning about Luncinda's horrific past and creation of appropriately name WorldWide! 

 

Y&R has the best corporate landscape in soaps and has really missed the mark for years on business stories. 

Edited December 21, 20178 yr by edgeofnik

9 minutes ago, edgeofnik said:

 

Gosh that was a great business story that ended up having a ton of emotional resonance and leading to learning about Luncinda's horrific past and creation of appropriately name WorldWide! 

 

 

I wish the story was available on Youtube to relive again. It is disappointing that it is not. I was also hoping an episode or two would have been released on DVD during the time ATWT episodes were being manufactured on disc.

I am reminded when Hogan Sheffer started the quick pace on ATWT.  I don't believe Sheffer skipped as many beats as Mal Young is doing.

Thankfully that didn't last too long at ATWT. Innovation is good and trying to refresh a genre that is dying is not always good.

Remember the shaky camera work and the story telling on Wednesdays they did at GL.

Marland's ATWT was the best Soapsuds and the Connor - Lucinda stories were great.

 

I miss Sussman and Alden and I wish they could have been given a longer chance to prove themselves. I wonder how much support they got from Mal Young?

So Traci has to take public transportation but Billy can use Jabot's jet to fly random people around?

And Jill arrives via helicopter!

Yesterday's episode was visually appealing. I hated the most recent dialogue between Ashley and Ravi. Sorry MY, Ashley would not have done that or said that to Ravi.

 

There is so much continuity that is missing as well as skipped beats. It seems that every other day the show is somewhat good, and the other days it's just bad because of these things.

 

Hilary reminded me of a feisty black female character yesterday, but I can't recall the name...

 

I'm also disappointed that MY also seems to be intent on Victor never being allowed to learn or grow. His comment about not sharing the same bed with Nikki after what she did was nausea inducing, all things considered. Please don't insult your audience MY. I don't know anyone who watches a show to be repeatedly angered and nauseated.

2 hours ago, bluejeanbaby3 said:

Yesterday's episode was visually appealing. I hated the most recent dialogue between Ashley and Ravi. Sorry MY, Ashley would not have done that or said that to Ravi.

 

There is so much continuity that is missing as well as skipped beats. It seems that every other day the show is somewhat good, and the other days it's just bad because of these things.

 

Hilary reminded me of a feisty black female character yesterday, but I can't recall the name...

 

I'm also disappointed that MY also seems to be intent on Victor never being allowed to learn or grow. His comment about not sharing the same bed with Nikki after what she did was nausea inducing, all things considered. Please don't insult your audience MY. I don't know anyone who watches a show to be repeatedly angered and nauseated.

 

Nikki's indulgent smirks and smiling eyes were even more nauseous.  I'm assuming that was supposed to read as Victor being bluster and bluff and Nikki knowing it. 

Mariah has become like nails on a chalkboard.