2 hours ago, dragonflies said:

TV LINE is saying they have sources that are saying Julie won't be returning to the TALK at all. I say good. She basically gave CBS an FU with her Big Brother stunt

She gave her husband's victims the finger.  Screw CBS, they would have kept him if they dared.

I said from the very beginning that there was no way that Chen stays on a show where the target audience is women.  She had twice used The Talk to gaslight Janet Jackson once and then Moonves' other targets.

Edited September 17, 20187 yr by DramatistDreamer

 

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/writer-soon-yi-profile-accused-bias-long-history-woody-allen-1143850

 

The whole "Well Dylan's brother writes about her" response is a bit silly to me as everyone knows that connection is close. The connection of this Daphne woman and Allen is not as apparent, even when briefly mentioned in her article.

 

Vulture is one of those pseudo-"woke" sites that usually reads like a self-parody. They have articles going grr grr at random white men for not understanding about Maya Rudolph needing to get her hair done while she was on SNL, yet they have things like this and like that Wonder Woman review a year or two ago. I guess they just jump on the social justice bandwagon when it's easy and the rest of the time they just go for a clickbait mess. 

Edited September 17, 20187 yr by DRW50

13 hours ago, Vee said:

Really going with this end line, eh, Talk?

 

LOL.

 

13 hours ago, Soapsuds said:

Replace her with with Connie Chung Povich.....

 

Please tell me you're kidding.

Look, I think Woody and Mia are two, very damaged individuals; and I think their damage has undoubtedly shaped the lives of their children, both biological and adopted.  You don't have to know what happened on that day in August, 1992, to see it.

 

I just think it's telling how so many are outraged -- outraged, I say! -- over Woody's marrying his stepdaughter and (allegedly) molesting his other daughter -- but hardly anyone batted an eye when the African-American community complained about the lack of AA actors in his movies, or the stereotypical roles for the ones he does employ.  (I, myself, have counted only two actresses of color in Woody's movies.  One played a maid, the other a whore.)

Edited September 17, 20187 yr by Khan

IMO, there's a double standard: It's OK to give the alleged victims a voice, but it's not OK to let the alleged perpetrators defend themselves. 

 

Ronan Farrow called the article a hit job--  what about the articles against Woody? Aren't those a hit job as well?

 

 

She already incriminated herself with her own texts! Dumb ho. 

 

This is what happens when two (three if you count this 'Rain Dove') narcissists obsessed with fame and power co-opt the #MeToo movement. Can't they think of the real victims here? Us!

Edited September 17, 20187 yr by Cat

I loathe this woman beater so much, STFU Sean Penn

 

 

No Julie Chen again today on The Talk.....

7 hours ago, WTGH said:

IMO, there's a double standard: It's OK to give the alleged victims a voice, but it's not OK to let the alleged perpetrators defend themselves. 

 

Ronan Farrow called the article a hit job--  what about the articles against Woody? Aren't those a hit job as well?

 

Which articles in particular?

 

The main issue with this article is that is only vaguely lets readers know just how tied the author is to Woody Allen and it also claims to be about Soon Yi's voice, yet Allen is clearly heavily involved. There's also using mostly one of the dead children as evidence of Soon Yi's claims.

 

These articles also seem to just focus on how terrible Mia is, rather than having anything good to say about Woody.

8 hours ago, Khan said:

Look, I think Woody and Mia are two, very damaged individuals; and I think their damage has undoubtedly shaped the lives of their children, both biological and adopted.  You don't have to know what happened on that day in August, 1992, to see it.

 

I just think it's telling how so many are outraged -- outraged, I say! -- over Woody's marrying his stepdaughter and (allegedly) molesting his other daughter -- but hardly anyone batted an eye when the African-American community complained about the lack of AA actors in his movies, or the stereotypical roles for the ones he does employ.  (I, myself, have counted only two actresses of color in Woody's movies.  One played a maid, the other a whore.)

Well, yes. I admit, I do find molesting one's six (?) year old child much more outrageous than not having a diverse cast in your movies. That goes for grooming your wife's daughter as well (Soon Yi was never his step daughter, I'll give him that). One makes you a criminal, one makes you a creep and the other makes you a racist jerk. They are not the same in degrees of harm.

 

The waters are muddy enough that we will never really know what happened.   Woody was in therapy because he had an inappropriate fascination with Dylan's body,  that's pretty sick.  The judge in the case though Dylan was not safe with Woody. Those are things we seem to know for sure. 

 

What I don't understand is why Woody and Soon Yi dredged this up again? Nothing Mia did changes what Woody did (or didn't do). It seems like a deflection, but to what end? It's not like Woody has been sidelined in any real way and needs a comeback.

 

Also, f*ck Shawn Penn.

19 minutes ago, Juliajms said:

What I don't understand is why Woody and Soon Yi dredged this up again? Nothing Mia did changes what Woody did (or didn't do). It seems like a deflection, but to what end? It's not like Woody has been sidelined in any real way and needs a comeback.

 

I kept seeing speculation it was down to #MeToo and the pressure against his movies, with the one he did with Selena Gomez currently in Amazon limbo.

Daytime Confidental is reporting that Julie Chen is out at the Talk.

Edited September 18, 20187 yr by Soapsuds

2 hours ago, Juliajms said:

Well, yes. I admit, I do find molesting one's six (?) year old child much more outrageous than not having a diverse cast in your movies. That goes for grooming your wife's daughter as well (Soon Yi was never his step daughter, I'll give him that). One makes you a criminal, one makes you a creep and the other makes you a racist jerk. They are not the same in degrees of harm.

 

You are absolutely right, racism and pedophilia are not the same in degrees of harm.  I apologize if that's how my statement came across.

8 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:

Daytime Confidental is reporting that Julie Chen is out at the View.

 

To the shock and amazement of absolutely no one.

 

If only she were out at BB, too.

2 hours ago, DRW50 said:

I kept seeing speculation it was down to #MeToo and the pressure against his movies, with the one he did with Selena Gomez currently in Amazon limbo.

 

That wouldn't surprise me.  Woody's career was already in crisis before the movement began.  Aside from "Moonlight in Paris," his movies haven't performed well at box offices in a very long time.  #MeToo only exacerbates the issue.

Julie Chen leaving 'The Talk' after husband Les Moonves exits CBS

 

Hopefully this also means she's out of Big Brother and the entire network...