Jump to content

Y&R: December 2016 Discussion Thread


Recommended Posts

  • Replies 1.8k
  • Created
  • Last Reply
  • Members

 

Her marriage to the Baldwins & relationship to Traci aside Lauren has been friends & strong business associates with The Abbotts for decades.

 

If new viewers had just begun watching they would assume Jack & Lauren were casual acquaintances (instead of flirty friends) which is ironic coming from a writer who went out of her way to have Ashley began unnecessarily clucking about her paternity out of nowhere.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

 

Before Lauren was relegated to only having Doug Davidson & CLB as her screen partners she and Jack & Lauren (like Jack & Leanna) had a really interesting relationship. They were flirty friends who had been intimate & still had quite a bit of chemistry (even with PB as Jack) when in each others presence.

 

A lot of the complexity of Jack's female relationships was dropped when PB was cast in the role.

 

They basically changed Jack into Cliff Warner & it's really screwed the character.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

I have to admit, as a newer viewer myself a while back, I wouldn't have guessed Jack and Lauren were ever that close, even based on some of the early 90's stuff when Bergman first came on....I know otherwise now, but it also doesn't help that I remember a clip being posted somewhere during the middle of LML's run, with the face cream stuff, and Jack calls Lauren and addresses himself as "JACK ABBOTT".....I remember thinking that was awkward, since both characters have been on for decades, but it's a little bit more jarring now knowing how close Jack and Lauren were at one time...

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

 

If I recall right Jack and Lauren were enjoying a nice sexy ski trip together when they saw Lisa Mansfield out of the blue and Lauren promptly followed Lisa since ya know Lauren had the hots and care for Brad too. 

 

SSM said when they had revisited Brad's past back in 2006 the original story was to have Lisa resurface but Latham killed the idea and brought on the Nazi crap. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

Yes, they both rescued Brad, I think all that material use to be on here....I have a few January 1989 episodes I have yet to post showing some of Brad going crazy on Lisa while he's still locked in the cage, while Jack and Lauren are actually together, trying to put the pieces to Brad's "disappearance" together....I think it was a good month or 2 before he was rescued though....LOL

Having Lisa come back would have been a better idea, but I still have to wonder if it would have held out well, since that was on the heels of Sheila's last return, and that got mostly mixed reviews....

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

 

The first time I got to see any part of that story was on Christmas Day 1998 when CBS reran the Christmas 1988 episode. Sure it was just two years before I had even started watching Y&R but I was very spellbound by the entire episode and my mother jolted and filled me in on the details. You had Victor and Leanna trying to do something nice for Ashley for Christmas and the Chancellor clan coming together for Christmas but in the middle of this you had Brad in a cage.

 

Having Lisa probably would have even worked out better than Sheila's return. At least with Lisa you could start from scratch with the basic idea that she was crazy enough to lock up someone in a cage. With Sheila she had such a tight history between Y&R and B&B that Jack Smith & Co. just cherry picked and thus it felt so disjointed overall. Other than a couple appearances of Eric crossing over and Sugar they seem to gloss over any of Sheila's B&B history.  

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Members

I remember that episode! (man I wish they still aired classic episodes over christmas!) that was also the same one where Nina let Phillip be with their son on Christmas after keeping him away from Phillip.....I remember how superb Jess Walton and Tricia Cast were in that episode!

I almost wonder if the Lisa return story could work even without Brad......maybe she would go after Jack and Lauren this time or something....on second thought, both have had enough psycho stuff happening to them.....LOL

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.



  • Recent Posts

    • It’s not about a lack of faith and trust in MVJ, it’s about a a lack of faith and trust in Ron Carlivati, who I think can be very sneaky and manipulative when he wants to be.  And, all that “He’s just a breakdown writer” talk never changed my mind about anything, because at Days, it was “just a breakdown writer” that gave us some of the worst episodes I’ve ever seen. 
    • Please register in order to view this content

       
    • Please register in order to view this content

       
    • Please register in order to view this content

       
    • Please register in order to view this content

         
    • @TaoboiI ran into Dani’s favorite party planner again tonight

      Please register in order to view this content

    • I think they’re desperately trying to cover his awful tattoos. But anyway them being unable to style short kings properly has been a major pet peeve of mine for a while now.  I honestly don’t understand what some people expect from actors to even begin considering them for recognition. Let’s be real—awards mostly mean that an actor is respected by their peers and has some level of cultural relevance. Actual judgment on the acting itself? That’s often secondary—highly subjective and shaped by the times. I completely agree on both points. If you’re an actor or a dancer you shouldn’t get any tattoos (sorry not sorry). Tomas’ tattoos are ugly too. And regarding the couples- you’re completely right. These writers are unable to write romance.   Further comments: - Kat cannot be this dumb to keep tampering with evidence over and over again. And I’m officially not a fan of the actress—every time she’s in a scene with Leslie, she doesn’t seem intimidated at all. She plays it like comic relief, which is just too much, especially when paired with Leslie’s histrionics and over-the-top antics. Leslie is older, dangerous, and has literally been portrayed as homicidal—Kat should be at least a little scared. • I also didn’t like Kat playing damsel in distress with the hotel manager. It gave off the same weird energy as Dani with the cop. I would’ve much preferred the version Paul Raven suggested, with her sneaking in through housekeeping. • And yes, Dani again accused Hayley of faking the pregnancy—this time even specifying she might be using a pillow under her shirt. (No fake miscarriage being mentioned) I stand by my take: this is ridiculous writing. No one in the real world—except us, the chronically online soap watchers—would even think of such a conspiracy theory. Haley is no Beyoncé. • What in the world was Chelsea wearing in her hair the other day? And this whole thing with Madison is beyond cringe. Chelsea’s coming off as needy and toxic—basically like every other Dupree. • I’m glad the casino storyline is moving forward, but it’s still boring as hell. Honestly, I’d be so here for a plot twist where Vanessa and Doug take Joey out. • The direction and editing lately have been rough. Abrupt cuts, weird pacing… something just feels off overall. There’s a strange uneasiness to how it’s all coming together. • And finally: Tomas is too much of a saint. Where are the messy sluts when you need them? (Vanessa doesn’t count.)
    • I was watching some August 1987 episodes and they brought back so many memories. I had some thoughts: Lisa and Jamie were so dull. Lisa was such a nothing character. It boggles my mind that so much story was centered around her in such a short amount of time. Joanna Going is a talented actress, but the material was just not there.  It was so good to see Wallingford and Mitch again. I know there was talk about Felicia a while back, but these episodes reminded me how integral Felicia was for the show.  Sally Spencer was done so dirty. She is turning in superb performances in an icky storyline. I wish she had stuck around longer. She has chemistry with everyone. The McKinnons should have lasted longer. Spencer had some strong stuff with Stephen Schnetzer and Mary Alexander. AW waster such a talented actress by getting rid of her. Justice for Cheryl too. I also missed Ed Fry when he left. Sandra Ferguson was a star from the moment she came on. She was charismatic and just popped. She had immediate chemistry with RKK and blended in well with Wyndham and Watson. I'd forgotten about the teenage Matthew.  I have no memory of Peggy Lazarus. She must not have lasted long. Was the original plan for John that he was going to turn out to be the twins' real father?      
    • If the new and improved copies that @rsclassicfanforever has uploaded can be manually moved into the "by month, by year" folders, that would be awesome. I personally don't think it's necessary to keep the older versions (which either have Dutch subtitles hard coded on them, or are lesser in picture quality). That's a lot of valuable drive space that could be cleared. Just my view but can appreciate others may feel differently. The structure had been by month by year previously, so I think it would be easier to conform to that, where so much prior work to get it to that format has already been done. Hopefully you can "drag and drop" so the new copies are in the right month/year? Re Clips, I never look at them now we pretty much have the episodes in full. Appreciate others may use, however. Thanks for all your hard work here @BoldRestless!
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy