6 minutes ago, YRBB said:

 

Gotcha. Not sure whether they ever actually slept together but they were good friends all the way back to the 80s and there were always strong sexual undercurrents (it was Terry Lester, so what else? ) even in 2000 when there were propositions and kissing involved.

Felt like Terry Lester's Jack would've slept and flirted with everyone 

46 minutes ago, YRBB said:

 

A bit of an overstatement, DeeeDee. They may not have played Jack & Lauren's sexual history (Michael was right there), or held each other like Michael/Phyllis do, but they acted close and both Phyllis AND Ashley mentioned they were friends. But they could do more.

 

Her marriage to the Baldwins & relationship to Traci aside Lauren has been friends & strong business associates with The Abbotts for decades.

 

If new viewers had just begun watching they would assume Jack & Lauren were casual acquaintances (instead of flirty friends) which is ironic coming from a writer who went out of her way to have Ashley began unnecessarily clucking about her paternity out of nowhere.

Edited December 13, 20169 yr by DeeeDee

2 minutes ago, cassadine1991 said:

Felt like Terry Lester's Jack would've slept and flirted with everyone 

 

He was walking sex. End of.

30 minutes ago, YRfan23 said:

I always thought Lester's Jack and Lauren had more of the friendship thing.....to be fair Bergman's Jack hasn't always played up the Lauren and Jack relationship as much as Lester, and doesn't have the chemistry that they had based on what I've seen of early Jack and Lauren.....

 

Before Lauren was relegated to only having Doug Davidson & CLB as her screen partners she and Jack & Lauren (like Jack & Leanna) had a really interesting relationship. They were flirty friends who had been intimate & still had quite a bit of chemistry (even with PB as Jack) when in each others presence.

5 minutes ago, YRBB said:

 

He was walking sex. End of.

 

A lot of the complexity of Jack's female relationships was dropped when PB was cast in the role.

 

They basically changed Jack into Cliff Warner & it's really screwed the character.

6 minutes ago, DeeeDee said:

 

Before Lauren was relegated to only having Doug Davidson & CLB as her screen partners she and Jack & Lauren (like Jack & Leanna) had a really interesting relationship. They were flirty friends who had been intimate & still had quite a bit of chemistry (even with PB as Jack) when in each others presence.

I have to admit, as a newer viewer myself a while back, I wouldn't have guessed Jack and Lauren were ever that close, even based on some of the early 90's stuff when Bergman first came on....I know otherwise now, but it also doesn't help that I remember a clip being posted somewhere during the middle of LML's run, with the face cream stuff, and Jack calls Lauren and addresses himself as "JACK ABBOTT".....I remember thinking that was awkward, since both characters have been on for decades, but it's a little bit more jarring now knowing how close Jack and Lauren were at one time...

Edited December 13, 20169 yr by YRfan23

42 minutes ago, Vee said:

Tracy Bregman is killing it with her quiet desperation. All that stuff about Lauren's business and her father gets me.

 

 

 

 

Something we agree on. I'm love Lauren and this story. The previse is weak but the emotional punch in the writing and  acting is there  

There was an old clip on youtube, I think from 1984 where Lauren is warning another character to stay away from Jack. It wasn't a bad thing just that Jack would probably leave them heartbroken. Can't remember who it was. 

LML's era was when the The Baldwin Fishers ate the show & Y&R made them the heroes.

 

It had Lauren doing stuff like being ok with holding a disabled man hostage until he died.

4 minutes ago, YRfan23 said:

I have to admit, as a newer viewer myself a while back, I wouldn't have guessed Jack and Lauren were ever that close, even based on some of the early 90's stuff when Bergman first came on....I know otherwise now, but it also doesn't help that I remember a clip being posted somewhere during the middle of LML's run, with the face cream stuff, and Jack calls Lauren and addresses himself as "JACK ABBOTT".....I remember thinking that was awkward, since both characters have been on for decades, but it's a little bit more jarring now knowing how close Jack and Lauren were at one time...

 

If I recall right Jack and Lauren were enjoying a nice sexy ski trip together when they saw Lisa Mansfield out of the blue and Lauren promptly followed Lisa since ya know Lauren had the hots and care for Brad too. 

 

SSM said when they had revisited Brad's past back in 2006 the original story was to have Lisa resurface but Latham killed the idea and brought on the Nazi crap. 

4 minutes ago, soapfan770 said:

 

If I recall right Jack and Lauren were enjoying a nice sexy ski trip together when they saw Lisa Mansfield out of the blue and Lauren promptly followed Lisa since ya know Lauren had the hots and care for Brad too. 

 

SSM said when they had revisited Brad's past back in 2006 the original story was to have Lisa resurface but Latham killed the idea and brought on the Nazi crap. 

Yes, they both rescued Brad, I think all that material use to be on here....I have a few January 1989 episodes I have yet to post showing some of Brad going crazy on Lisa while he's still locked in the cage, while Jack and Lauren are actually together, trying to put the pieces to Brad's "disappearance" together....I think it was a good month or 2 before he was rescued though....LOL

Having Lisa come back would have been a better idea, but I still have to wonder if it would have held out well, since that was on the heels of Sheila's last return, and that got mostly mixed reviews....

Edited December 13, 20169 yr by YRfan23

I always forget the Traci/Lauren connection would tie Lauren to Jack as well ... so many ignored connections and relationships throughout the years

Most of that happened when the show decided to go the Days Supercouple route.

1 minute ago, YRfan23 said:

Yes, they both rescued Brad, I think all that material use to be on here....I have a few January 1989 episodes I have yet to post showing some of Brad going crazy on Lisa while he's still locked in the cage, while Jack and Lauren are actually together, trying to put the pieces to Brad's "disappearance" together....I think it was a good month or 2 before he was rescued though....LOL

Having Lisa come back would have been a better idea, but I still have to wonder if it would have held out well, since that was on the heels of Sheila's last return, and that got mostly mixed reviews....

 

The first time I got to see any part of that story was on Christmas Day 1998 when CBS reran the Christmas 1988 episode. Sure it was just two years before I had even started watching Y&R but I was very spellbound by the entire episode and my mother jolted and filled me in on the details. You had Victor and Leanna trying to do something nice for Ashley for Christmas and the Chancellor clan coming together for Christmas but in the middle of this you had Brad in a cage.

 

Having Lisa probably would have even worked out better than Sheila's return. At least with Lisa you could start from scratch with the basic idea that she was crazy enough to lock up someone in a cage. With Sheila she had such a tight history between Y&R and B&B that Jack Smith & Co. just cherry picked and thus it felt so disjointed overall. Other than a couple appearances of Eric crossing over and Sugar they seem to gloss over any of Sheila's B&B history.  

5 minutes ago, soapfan770 said:

 

The first time I got to see any part of that story was on Christmas Day 1998 when CBS reran the Christmas 1988 episode. Sure it was just two years before I had even started watching Y&R but I was very spellbound by the entire episode and my mother jolted and filled me in on the details. You had Victor and Leanna trying to do something nice for Ashley for Christmas and the Chancellor clan coming together for Christmas but in the middle of this you had Brad in a cage.

 

Having Lisa probably would have even worked out better than Sheila's return. At least with Lisa you could start from scratch with the basic idea that she was crazy enough to lock up someone in a cage. With Sheila she had such a tight history between Y&R and B&B that Jack Smith & Co. just cherry picked and thus it felt so disjointed overall. Other than a couple appearances of Eric crossing over and Sugar they seem to gloss over any of Sheila's B&B history.  

I remember that episode! (man I wish they still aired classic episodes over christmas!) that was also the same one where Nina let Phillip be with their son on Christmas after keeping him away from Phillip.....I remember how superb Jess Walton and Tricia Cast were in that episode!

I almost wonder if the Lisa return story could work even without Brad......maybe she would go after Jack and Lauren this time or something....on second thought, both have had enough psycho stuff happening to them.....LOL

Edited December 13, 20169 yr by YRfan23

Probably not @YRfan23 lol besides Terry Lester's Jack laughed Lisa off as a "pile of hair"!!!