Members Eric83 Posted April 29, 2015 Members Share Posted April 29, 2015 No disrespect but have you actually researched the topic of transgender people before arriving to this conclusion? Just curious that's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members quartermainefan Posted April 29, 2015 Members Share Posted April 29, 2015 If we're going to buy into this fantasy that there is some big white bearded man sitting on a cloud somewhere who made everything, then he did indeed make the hate and the thoughts that made Isis and Nazis. There is no such thing as on your own when we are all supposedly following God's plan. It was God's plan that Isis kills everyone or else there is no such thing as God's plan. God made this, God made that....then God made Hitler too. God might think about staying out of the kitchen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mr. Vixen Posted April 29, 2015 Members Share Posted April 29, 2015 We don't agree often, but you are really nailing this one on the head. And so well put. Kudos to you, qfan! The idea of gay people not supporting transgender people is crazy and baffling to me. But hey, who am I to judge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Juliajms Posted April 29, 2015 Members Share Posted April 29, 2015 I don't find it odd, except on religious grounds. That makes it so random to me. Otherwise, it doesn't surprise me at all. I'm with Q in that no one needs to agree. It took hundreds of years for people to agree that the Earth orbits the sun, but that disagreement didn't change the reality. Hell, neither did the eventual agreement, come to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mr. Vixen Posted April 29, 2015 Members Share Posted April 29, 2015 I should have clarified that. I, too, only find it odd on religious grounds. The largest argument of the (religious) gay population is that God made everyone exactly the way they are. So to hear a religious gay person say they don't believe that God made transgender people the way they are really confuses me. If we're getting technical, the Bible says the same about transgender people as it does about gay people, so how can we say "Well, he made one just the way they are…but the others are wrong!". I don't know, I just don't get it. I personally believe that God made all people exactly who and how they are and loves us all equally. But hey, I'm in no position to judge anyone on their beliefs. I'm just confused by them, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SFK Posted April 29, 2015 Members Share Posted April 29, 2015 People are born blind, deaf, horribly disfigured, missing limbs, conjoined to twins, intersex, et cetera. To say that G-d made them that way and they shouldn't seek to correct their conditions to find happier, more viable existence bringing them closer to their true selves would be disingenuous. One can maintain that G-d does not make mistakes while acknowledging that there's no testimony without a test. This is simply Bruce's journey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dragonflies Posted June 1, 2015 Members Share Posted June 1, 2015 Bruce makes debut as a woman on the cover of Vanity Fair "Call me Caitlyn" http://www.eonline.com/NEWS/661816/BRUCE-JENNER-MAKES-PUBLIC-DEBUT-AS-A-WOMAN-ON-THE-COVER-OF-VANITY-FAIR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChitHappens Posted June 1, 2015 Members Share Posted June 1, 2015 Wow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Nate4 Posted June 1, 2015 Members Share Posted June 1, 2015 Absolutely stunning. And Prince's argument makes no sense at all... So ignorant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cassadine1991 Posted June 1, 2015 Members Share Posted June 1, 2015 She looks very beautiful, I'm so surprised Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cheap21 Posted June 1, 2015 Members Share Posted June 1, 2015 Am I the only one seeing the shade in her not naming herself Kaitlyn with a K? ETA: Yeah she does look good. Better and younger than Kris! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Nate4 Posted June 1, 2015 Members Share Posted June 1, 2015 The boobs look good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ReddFoxx Posted June 1, 2015 Members Share Posted June 1, 2015 Looks like Jessica Lange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Eric83 Posted June 1, 2015 Members Share Posted June 1, 2015 Slay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DramatistDreamer Posted June 1, 2015 Members Share Posted June 1, 2015 Am I the only one who thinks she bears a slight resemblance to Renée Russo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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