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Y&R September Discussion

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That is absolutely hilarious! Based on Kevin's history, he's a total power B. LOL I think shows should do more homoerotic bromances - a certain segment of the audience gets it, while the main fan base still gets their leading "men."

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They've went down the brain tumor road before with Jana, didn't they? IA though, they botched Sharon's redemption with this bi polar crap. It's quite obvious to me they aren't invested it, and will roll it out as needed when Sharon goes bat [!@#$%^&*] again. Yawn.

Redemption could have been as easy as a mental break, not something chronic, then send her off screen for a few months. The character is prolly played out at this point.

We are way past the point of psychological break. This is a 9-1-1 situation. The writing has gone past the point of a counseling and some pills as a solution. If they intend to keep Sharon as a viable character (and let's face it, there are quite a few other characters who can go before she does), they need to invent a medical reason for this behavior.

Unless Sharon is going to become the next Patti, in which case they will shift her off the show to an institution, they need to have a medical, surgical intervention to the remove the 'source' of this ridiculous story that's been ongoing through at least two writing regimes.

It doesn't even matter whether they've gone down this road with Jana (or any other character) before, Y&R needs an expedient solution to an unworkable story.

And it's not like Y&R hasn't recycled a storyline before.

Sharon had an accident years ago, around the time Nick was fooling around with Grace Turner, they could say it was a benign, very slow growing tumor that has now been recently accelerating growth at a rapid rate and has been pressing up against her brain, adversely affecting the part of her brain that regulates behavior and emotion. If they don't go in and operate, it will expand and begin to press against the other parts of the brain that control vital functions (like lung and brain activity). Yadda yadda yadda.

There's no longer a way to finesse the situation, the writing has descended too far.

Just surgically remove the bad storyline with a scalpel.

Excise it.

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Unless Sharon is going to become the next Patti, in which case they will shift her off the show to an institution, they need to have a medical, surgical intervention to the remove the 'source' of this ridiculous story that's been ongoing through at least two writing regimes.

I don't agree that it has to be a surgical solution. People can start acting pretty crazy when there brain chemistry is off. Y&R is using that fact as a matter of convenience to drive this story, which may be lame, but it's still true.

People who stop taking their meds start acting pretty far out. Sure, I'd sooner believe that Sharon would start digging in her back yard building a shelter to survive the imminent alien invasion than insist she needs Nick back, but still. A few weeks back in the mental institution to get her stabilized is all this story really needs.

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I think Cassie is suppose to be a hallucination of Sharon's. One visit and I think the audience would have gotten the picture. It's overkill now.

This story needs Cassie because Sharon has no one to talk to..unless they have her talking to herself.

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Given the buzz, they might as well hook Kevin and Alex up. That is Kevin's only shot at a successful pairing and Alex has no other options.

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Given the buzz, they might as well hook Kevin and Alex up. That is Kevin's only shot at a successful pairing and Alex has no other options.

There are way too many men on this show...

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Given the buzz, they might as well hook Kevin and Alex up. That is Kevin's only shot at a successful pairing and Alex has no other options.

LOL. Kevin has been around just a little over 10 years now with a string of silly storylines and non-believable relationships. Alex did seem to have options at first, but it also seemed like those options were all dismissed. He dated Abby for a very short time, he flirted with both Chloe and Chelsea, and a new female detective was hired a few months ago to work with him at GCPD. She has since vanished!

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another week, another Victor cover

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LOL...I thought that "Meet the new Victoria" blurb under Y&R meant Victoria was being recast until I realized it was for a different show

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I think Cassie is suppose to be a hallucination of Sharon's. One visit and I think the audience would have gotten the picture. It's overkill now.

No CG stated that Cassie is Sharon's conscience, much like John is. To Jack, she is not a ghost or hallucination.

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It's so hard to describe quite what it is about the Bell actors but I know what Chris B is talking about.

I completely get it but am unable to put it to words, as well!

The thing with typical Bell actors is that they are and they look naturally glamourus. That's just it.

I wouldn't necessarily use that word, but this is what I've realized about the classic Bell actors: They were (mostly) gorgeous BUT not in the cookie-cutter, typical way. Each main character looked completely individual, different and distinguishable. Ashley and Nikki were both beautiful blondes, but there was nothing about their look that was typical or cliche. I don't think anybody looks like Victor anywhere else on TV. Paul and Brad would never be confused. Ridge? Total unique look. Koslow? The same. And it served them wonderfully, especially considering the EXTREME close-ups the show favored. They were beautiful but, most importantly, just captivating and eye-catching. Can you imagine an extreme close up on a face you've seen on a million different people?

Even though I've watched Y&R for nearly 30 years (hey, I started young), I don't really believe the Bill Bell style could survive in today's climate. I'm nostalgic for those days and I wish I had a channel I could watch the classic soaps on, but I don't really believe that the audience overall could put up with that slow pace now. The world simply moves faster than it did 30 years ago, for better or worse. It used to be a joke that you only had to watch Y&R a few times a month and the characters would be having the same conversation for days on end. You wouldn't miss anything. It was funny because it was true. I really can't imagine that pacing surviving today.

I have to agree. That kind of pacing would be disastrous today. I can't blame them for wanting to speed things up. But they didn't have to get frenetic about it. The dialogue could have been modernized, while retaining its signature style. They didn't have to gut everything that made Y&R, Y&R.

DAYS is a great example of how you can have a relatively slow, talkey-talkey show and still make it work. It's shocking that DAYS is more Y&R than Y&R.

You've hit the nail on the head!

Key Bell actors under Bill Bell dealt with psychologically ambiguous impulses. Underlying, simmering emotions. Nothing ever exploded until the last possible second. As a result, actors like Lauren Koslow and Don Diamont tend to deliver their lines slowly, savouring the words, pulling out every beat of dialogue. As disliked as Christel Khalil is (and as dull as she is), she is another "slower" speaker who clearly learned the Bell style.

These kids like MCE, Liz Hendricksen tend to all speak in the same little-girl, Valley squeak, and they rattle off their lines at 100 mph. As a result, underlying emotion secreted in the dialogue gets lost. The beats don't get all played. I have a harder time buying the story they are trying to sell me, mostly because I wonder if they are racing through their lines because they find the SL laughable or they just want to get filming over and done with.

Yes. YES.

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