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Y&R: Josh Griffith interview with TV Guide

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+ 1000. JFP's love for the 80s synthesizer, while great for Santa Barbara, makes me very nervous.

If anything, she needs to burrow even more deeply into the music archives and bring back the haunting, definitive music Y&R used from 1973 up to the 1990s/early part of 2000s. I can't properly describe them in words, but as soon as you heard them, you knew instantly -- "Y&R!" There is some music currently on the show that could be jettisoned in favour of these classics which remain timeless.

Also, MAB uses music over everything. Y&R's past EPs (excluding LML) knew how to intertwine the background music with long stretches of silence, making scenes even more powerful.

Some of the music from that period was extremely haunting. There are a fair few full episodes from the 70's, 80's and 90's online ( you know where) and as you said, silences mixed in with carefully selected scores made scenes very powerful. Case in point, March 7th 1991 is online. This being the episode where Nina shoots David Kimble.

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Some of the music from that period was extremely haunting. There are a fair few full episodes from the 70's, 80's and 90's online ( you know where) and as you said, silences mixed in with carefully selected scores made scenes very powerful. Case in point, March 7th 1991 is online. This being the episode where Nina shoots David Kimble.

YES! I rewatched that a few months ago. My hair was standing on end throughout those scenes. Not only was it well-paced script-wise (giving us something to tune into every segment until the final pay-off), but the other great pay-off was Nina telling Kimble that she knew exactly what kind of person he was, and wondering if DK was going to talk her out of shooting him. The mix of silence with slow-building spooky music racheted up the tension to the nth degree. Cinema-worthy IMO.

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Some of the music from that period was extremely haunting. There are a fair few full episodes from the 70's, 80's and 90's online ( you know where) and as you said, silences mixed in with carefully selected scores made scenes very powerful. Case in point, March 7th 1991 is online. This being the episode where Nina shoots David Kimble.

I would LOVE if she pulled out the piece that is at 4:45.... one of the best and creepy background pieces ever done. I DID hear the one at the end of Today's episode, and I don't really remember it, either... but it was lovely. I like it.

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Yeah, I mentioned that last cue used in today's episode in the scene between Nikki and Victor. It felt like an old Y&R cue, but I don't remember it either.

I wonder if it was a new cue JFP had done for this episode, since she oversaw post-production for this episode.

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Yeah, I mentioned that last cue used in today's episode in the scene between Nikki and Victor. It felt like an old Y&R cue, but I don't remember it either.

I wonder if it was a new cue JFP had done for this episode, since she oversaw post-production for this episode.

Yes, after you mentioned it, I made a point to listen for it... and I don't remember hearing it before, either. If it IS new, and a preview of things to come, it makes me feel WAY better.

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+ 1000. JFP's love for the 80s synthesizer, while great for Santa Barbara, makes me very nervous.

If anything, she needs to burrow even more deeply into the music archives and bring back the haunting, definitive music Y&R used from 1973 up to the 1990s/early part of 2000s. I can't properly describe them in words, but as soon as you heard them, you knew instantly -- "Y&R!" There is some music currently on the show that could be jettisoned in favour of these classics which remain timeless.

Also, MAB uses music over everything. Y&R's past EPs (excluding LML) knew how to intertwine the background music with long stretches of silence, making scenes even more powerful.

I thought MAB's use of music was very Lazy. It seemed as if she thought that the music could create an emotion where there was none in the writing.

Had she not been fired, I'm convinced she would have done a series of episodes in total Voice Over from beginning to end.

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Shhh don't say that the JFP apologists might see this wink.png

I'm confused as to how some can say a new character is more needed than a legacy character like Abby nbe.jpgmellow.png

New characters are usually needed when a new writer takes over. Sometimes a catalyst is needed and nobody on your canvas is fit for the story, especially on a show full of flat, wooden, useless characters. Disastrous decisions have been made with the Abby character from day one- her conception! Making her 30 when the story of her conception & paternity played out for 2 years at the turn of Milennium? Playing her against an 11 year old Kyle, who was conceived in the exact same storyline.....that we REMEMBER? The thing about being #1 is you have a lot of longtime viewers watching....so to insult our intelligence by aging a character 20 years before our eyes? She's a mess and needs a rest.

As for being a JFP apologist....I prefer to consider myself someone who has actually watched Jill's work for 27 years now, so maybe JFP realist would be more fitting?

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New characters are usually needed when a new writer takes over. Sometimes a catalyst is needed and nobody on your canvas is fit for the story, especially on a show full of flat, wooden, useless characters. Disastrous decisions have been made with the Abby character from day one- her conception! Making her 30 when the story of her conception & paternity played out for 2 years at the turn of Milennium? Playing her against an 11 year old Kyle, who was conceived in the exact same storyline.....that we REMEMBER? The thing about being #1 is you have a lot of longtime viewers watching....so to insult our intelligence by aging a character 20 years before our eyes? She's a mess and needs a rest.

As for being a JFP apologist....I prefer to consider myself someone who has actually watched Jill's work for 27 years now, so maybe JFP realist would be more fitting?

+1 to all of it. Right on the money. And lest we forget that Abby was played, memorably, by Darcy Rose Byrne, a very skilled child actress who stole many scenes ("I OWN JABOT!" being the standout)...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McF0VlZqiUI

And yes, a JFP realist is certainly more fitting.

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Marcy Rylan ain't got shyt on Darcy Rose Byrnes. I strongly believe they made a huge mistake SORASing when they had such a strong actor in the role.

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Marcy Rylan ain't got shyt on Darcy Rose Byrnes. I strongly believe they made a huge mistake SORASing when they had such a strong actor in the role.

Teen Abby was horrible and then recast with MR was even worse.

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How old were Nick and Victoria when they were SORAS-ed? Were they much older than Abby when she was SORAS-ed? I can see why they aged Abby, but she should've stayed a mid-teen. 30+ year old MR was totally miscast in the role, which was pretty poorly written anyway.

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