There's a scene from late 2000 or early 2001 or so between Erica and Dimitri... she's in David and Alex's office to yell at David, and Dimitri comes in to get Alex's medical bag so Alex can secretly treat Anna at Wildwind. Dimitri encourages Erica to stay away from David but also wants Erica to keep her distance from Wildwind but won't tell her why. For most of the scene, Michael Nader is overly peppy and smiling, far more so than he normally did as Dimitri. I remembered watching it when it aired and wondering what was up with Nader because it seemed so different. I watched it again recently and thought "the man is high as a kite."

OMG, she's stabbing him on her wedding day! I never saw this pic before and this was BEFORE she went all crazy. Talk about foreshadowing with the sharp objects....lol

LOL. That pic is awesome!

You know, I have to say that every once in a while AMC did a decent job of remembering its own history. Like Erica and sharp objects: we saw her in 1985 with a pocketknife promising herself that she'd fight Adam rather than let him rape her, she stabbed Dimitri with a letter opener, she stabbed Zach with a knife, and she stabbed David with a knife as well. As soon as Erica tried to choke David in that scene at ConFusion, I shook my head and thought "Jack needs to get her out of there before she finds a sharp object."

I read a transcript of it online a few years back.

Here it is:

http://transcripts.c.../21/lkl.00.html

Thanks Jonatin[/Tony Micelli]!

Just because...

No argument, not only were Esta and Cam so gorgeous together, their onscreen love story was truly love in the afternoon.

I hated Ryan and Gillian. I preferred him with Greenlee and she with Jake

I liked them but that was when she was allowed an edge. I hated the decision to "punish" Gillian, first with having sex with David for the bail money, then the relationship with Jake which was mostly about her being a bad person and needing to be taught otherwise. It worked with Greenlee/Jake, but Gillian was more fragile.

I was watching regularly at the time and I also preferred Gillian with her edge. She was beyond a saccharine heroine once she died. It was disappointing. I really liked her and the character with Ryan (when he too was allowed an edge).

I think thats why I preferred Greenlee. I enjoyed her being bitchy and selfish and having the qualties Gillian used to have. Gillian was much better when she was a vixen but she became way too much of a goody goody, devoid of her spark and interesting characteristics. She was very boring by the time she died

I think thats why I preferred Greenlee. I enjoyed her being bitchy and selfish and having the qualties Gillian used to have. Gillian was much better when she was a vixen but she became way too much of a goody goody, devoid of her spark and interesting characteristics. She was very boring by the time she died

On paper Greenlee should have been more of a fun yet sympathetic bitch (as I think Gillian was early on), but Budig was so incredibly dead emotionally that it just made her pity parties fall flat. Esta always put more heart into her role, even though it sucked for years before she was killed off.

Edited March 28, 201213 yr by CarlD2

I like Rebecca Budig but I never ever felt Greenlee was necessary. I always felt Gillian should have been the one to have lasted so long. I don't know why.

On paper Greenlee should have been more of a fun yet sympathetic bitch (as I think Gillian was early on), but Budig was so incredibly dead emotionally that it just made her pity parties fall flat. Esta always put more heart into her role, even though it sucked for years before she was killed off.

I agree with this, actually. I thought Gillian had a lot of potential early on, but they changed her character too much after her first year. Ditto about Budig, she came across as too brittle to me.

AMC has a long and obnoxious history of defanging their bitches. Brooke, Natalie, Gillian, Kendall, Bianca, Greenlee... how Erica managed to last that long on that show and still maintain her self-centered bitchiness is beyond me. Thank goodness for it too, because I always adored her for it. Aside from Erica, it was almost as if someone decreed that all bitchy female characters must be made fragile, nice, dependent on a man, or otherwise unbitchy after a set period of time.

And yes, I would have liked to see Gillian stick around much longer. I thought she was a great character, and I HATED that she was killed off to save whiny Laura English. What a waste.

AMC has a long and obnoxious history of defanging their bitches. Brooke, Natalie, Gillian, Kendall, Bianca, Greenlee... how Erica managed to last that long on that show and still maintain her self-centered bitchiness is beyond me. Thank goodness for it too, because I always adored her for it. Aside from Erica, it was almost as if someone decreed that all bitchy female characters must be made fragile, nice, dependent on a man, or otherwise unbitchy after a set period of time.

And yes, I would have liked to see Gillian stick around much longer. I thought she was a great character, and I HATED that she was killed off to save whiny Laura English. What a waste.

AMC has a long and obnoxious history of defanging their bitches. Brooke, Natalie, Gillian, Kendall, Bianca, Greenlee... how Erica managed to last that long on that show and still maintain her self-centered bitchiness is beyond me. Thank goodness for it too, because I always adored her for it. Aside from Erica, it was almost as if someone decreed that all bitchy female characters must be made fragile, nice, dependent on a man, or otherwise unbitchy after a set period of time.

And yes, I would have liked to see Gillian stick around much longer. I thought she was a great character, and I HATED that she was killed off to save whiny Laura English. What a waste.

I didn't mind the redemption of Brooke and Natalie through the 80's. It wasn't until the 90's where Janet showed up that I thought Natalie lost her spice. Brooke started to become too much of a victim around the time of the Tad/Brooke stuff and then PIerce.

Isn't this a fun "caption this" photo:

For as straight-laced as old man PC was, he sure knew how to picka kooky bride.

Edited March 29, 201213 yr by AMCHistory

AMC has a long and obnoxious history of defanging their bitches. Brooke, Natalie, Gillian, Kendall, Bianca, Greenlee... how Erica managed to last that long on that show and still maintain her self-centered bitchiness is beyond me. Thank goodness for it too, because I always adored her for it. Aside from Erica, it was almost as if someone decreed that all bitchy female characters must be made fragile, nice, dependent on a man, or otherwise unbitchy after a set period of time.

Even worse, many vixens on AMC were "defanged" after being raped or assaulted in some way.