2 minutes ago, kalbir said:

Bill Bell gave an interview around 1996 where he regretted having wrote the story where Malcolm took advantage of Dru. 

 

I remember hearing that. I think Shemar's growing popularity, played a factor as to why Bill Bell just dropped any mention of the "rape" whatsoever....It's just a shame Nathan went under the bus to make Malcolm popular. 

16 minutes ago, Forever8 said:

The show at the time made it seem like Dru and Malcolm had some hot one-night-stand. Instead of what it was. Did Neil ever find out his brother took advantage of his wife while she was on cough medicine? 

I forget if Neil even realized Lily isn't his daughter? LOL 

2 hours ago, will81 said:

This along with a few other stories is why I draw a line at May 94 for the golden age

I draw the line specifically the week of June 20, 1994 - golden age legacy characters April and Heather depart, and JM’s Nick (blech) debuts

2 hours ago, yrfan1983 said:

I draw the line specifically the week of June 20, 1994 - golden age legacy characters April and Heather depart, and JM’s Nick (blech) debuts

That's a solid place actually. Summer Solstice, haha. I agree with that

 

4 hours ago, kalbir said:

Well, the frat party started in June 1994.

I was thinking about it. Wouldn't it have been better if Mai was older and replaced Amy in the Sharon/Nick/Matt story and linked Luan (who I think should have been with John) into the Newman story and thus Jack and Keemo as well. Keemo already hates his half brother Jack because Luan (instead of Mamie) tells everyone she and John were lovers after his stroke and no one believes her, and now Mai has a nervous breakdown and goes missing. Pulling them all in to the one story while also giving them their own stuff to deal with. Adding more tension to the Jack/Keemo/Mari-Jo story which should have been the triangle that was a main focus

Edited February 12, 20214 yr by will81

4 hours ago, yrfan1983 said:

I draw the line specifically the week of June 20, 1994 - golden age legacy characters April and Heather depart, and JM’s Nick (blech) debuts

Wow, you remember the week that the frat party started 😆

 

2 hours ago, will81 said:

I was thinking about it. Wouldn't it have been better if Mai was older and replaced Amy in the Sharon/Nick/Matt story and linked Luan (who I think should have been with John) into the Newman story and thus Jack and Keemo as well. Keemo already hates his half brother Jack because Luan (instead of Mamie) tells everyone she and John were lovers after his stroke and no one believes her, and now Mai has a nervous breakdown and goes missing. Pulling them all in to the one story while also giving them their own stuff to deal with. Adding more tension to the Jack/Keemo/Mari-Jo story which should have been the triangle that was a main focus

So instead of the Vietnam rewrite, you would have had Keemo be John's son? Keemo's birth year was established as 1972 and Dina abandoned the family in 1971 so the timeline works. John in his devastation over Dina's abandonment turns to Luan, resulting in Keemo.

14 minutes ago, kalbir said:

So instead of the Vietnam rewrite, you would have had Keemo be John's son? Keemo's birth year was established as 1972 and Dina abandoned the family in 1971 so the timeline works. John in his devastation over Dina's abandonment turns to Luan, resulting in Keemo.

I never liked Jack as being in Vietnam, just doesn't gel with his character. I could see John enlisted, would explain why Dina left town. Being with a military man might have been too much for her. Though getting rid of the back story entirely and having Luan get pregnant by John and sent away by her family out of shame as she got pregnant out of wedlock would have worked better. Maybe the migrated from Vietnam early. I know most people fled closer to 1975 and later

 

Yeah I think Keemo and Jack as siblings would have worked better, while Luan and John and Jill would have been far better. Keeping Mamie from being humiliated and sent packing. She could have still seen her role in the house diminished allowing Dru and Liv to set her up with various men to help her move on, those dates could be disasterous, until she finally found her rich man who whisked her away (if they really needed to send her off). Luan would have had to be more firey and a match for Jill though. Mai is older and with the frat pack and Keemo and Jack are fighting it out over Mari-Jo, who is pitting them against each other for her own amusement. I do think Jack did better with women who were trouble.

 

I think also having Luan's restaurant take off and attract some shady business men would have been a great story for her and John. Especially if they kidnapped her just as she and John were to be married, maybe even on the day of. And you could have still thrown Dina in as a roadbloack at some point too. Or maybe Mai and Luan could have played out Mildred Pierce, haha. Might have been good too.

 

I think also moving Jill on from the Abbotts and ending the divorce and custody battle sooner would have helped her immensely. She could still be at odds with Victor over other things, thus setting up his shooting and her taking the fall. But she is with John Silva during this time a sort of redux of Michael Crawford and this gives John custody of Billy and eventually he and Luan move to New York. Thus allowing her return in 1999. 

 

There was a wealth of opportunity for them to be honest.

Edited February 12, 20214 yr by will81

Those scenarios are great and work a heck of a lot better than what happened onscreen.

 

 

It’s also a shame that in 1994 that Aunt Jill didn’t get shipped two hell raising teens in Chuckie and Jennifer because Snapper, Chris and Sally couldn’t handle them. 😁 I can only imagine Liz just casually dropping them off at the Abbott mansion to a shocked Jill lol. 

12 minutes ago, soapfan770 said:

It’s also a shame that in 1994 that Aunt Jill didn’t get shipped two hell raising teens in Chuckie and Jennifer because Snapper, Chris and Sally couldn’t handle them. 😁 I can only imagine Liz just casually dropping them off at the Abbott mansion to a shocked Jill lol. 

I would love this so much!!! 

 

Jennifer is on the couch at the Abbott Mansion talking on the phone. Jill saunters into the house barking orders at Mamie then greets her niece. Then realizes she is making a call to London which she shuts down with the quickness. 🤣🤣🤣

8 hours ago, Forever8 said:

I would love this so much!!! 

 

Jennifer is on the couch at the Abbott Mansion talking on the phone. Jill saunters into the house barking orders at Mamie then greets her niece. Then realizes she is making a call to London which she shuts down with the quickness. 🤣🤣🤣

LOL! If there was ever a time to reintroduce the two that was the time in 1994.  It would have definitely given Jill a lot more to do than an umpteenth divorce from John. Plus I could definitely see Chuckie being a JT type character and have a lustful affair with an older woman(Lauren? Mari Jo?) while Jennifer would have definitely been an Brittany Hodges-type character. 

 

 

Edited February 13, 20214 yr by soapfan770

Hey all, I am without my computer for the next few days. So those following the blog, I won't be able to update for the next few days. I also have only November and December 1987 of the cast charts left to do and will get those up soon as well.

Thanks @will81 for all you have been doing!

 

Bundy1965 is adding more German episodes to the vault starting with November 1995 into 1996.  She is also adding bits of the same episodes in English when she has them, either next to the episode or in the clips folder for that year. As someone who also collected many random clips of Y&R over the years and isn't sure what's what, I can truly appreciate the time it took to figure out those dates and put them in the right order! It will make it much easier to watch in order. 

 

I made this playlist a long time ago with the German 1995 eps that were already on YouTube.  Eventually, I will add Bundy's (I still have to do the rest of 1986 as well). The first two episodes correspond to the 1995 daytime/primetime episodes.

 

Greetings to all of you! 
I am active now, but I will probably write very little 
as I am not very good at English.

13 minutes ago, Bundy1965 said:

Greetings to all of you! 
I am active now, but I will probably write very little 
as I am not very good at English.

 Guten tag! So glad your account was approved! Thanks for all the videos! 

1 hour ago, Bundy1965 said:

Greetings to all of you! 
I am active now, but I will probably write very little 
as I am not very good at English.

Welcome !!! And thanks for the videos...I am a YR fan and I also love "Liebe,Lüge,Leidenschaft" and searching fans with German episodes!

Edited February 15, 20214 yr by MissPalmer

23 minutes ago, MissPalmer said:

Welcome !!! And thanks for the videos...I am a YR fan and I also love "Liebe,Lüge,Leidenschaft" and searching fans with German episodes!

I only have german B&B and Y&R.

Edited February 15, 20214 yr by Bundy1965