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I saw The Hobbit in 48 FPS/HFR out of curiosity and wanting to support advances in technology, despite having next to no interest in more of those movies. The entire thing ended up looking like a bad cosplay convention in that state and I've never bothered with high frame rate since.

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2 hours ago, Vee said:

I saw The Hobbit in 48 FPS/HFR out of curiosity and wanting to support advances in technology, despite having next to no interest in more of those movies. The entire thing ended up looking like a bad cosplay convention in that state and I've never bothered with high frame rate since.

Man, does this ever conjure some crazy imagery, but with the length of some movies, I can sort of understand the desire to play with rates. Now I'm more curious to look into why Lee took that risk. 

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Was just thinking about Ellen Lowell Stewart and the number of people close to her that died.

1. As a young woman, she lost her father Jim suddenly.

2. Then she marries Tim, the father of her child but he dies leaving her a widow.

3. Then Betty Stewart, adoptive mother of her son dies

4. Her best friend Penny's husband Jeff dies in a car crash.

5. David's housekeeper Franny dies and she is accused of murder.

6. Her stepfather Doug dies suddenly.

7. Penny's 2nd husband Neil dies

8, 9, 10.Daughter in law Liz, and stepson Paul both die and a few years later her son Dan passes away

11. She is widowed for the 2nd time when David dies.

probably a few more could be included. Ellen probably had a selection of black outfits at the ready.

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12 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

Was just thinking about Ellen Lowell Stewart and the number of people close to her that died.

1. As a young woman, she lost her father Jim suddenly.

2. Then she marries Tim, the father of her child but he dies leaving her a widow.

3. Then Betty Stewart, adoptive mother of her son dies

4. Her best friend Penny's husband Jeff dies in a car crash.

5. David's housekeeper Franny dies and she is accused of murder.

6. Her stepfather Doug dies suddenly.

7. Penny's 2nd husband Neil dies

8, 9, 10.Daughter in law Liz, and stepson Paul both die and a few years later her son Dan passes away

11. She is widowed for the 2nd time when David dies.

probably a few more could be included. Ellen probably had a selection of black outfits at the ready.

I always thought they wrote poor Ellen as a dud and Bruder could have done much better with the character..especially with her wild past.  Was she preggers and gave the baby up on screen..if she was a widow why give the kid away? Also, how did she get into David's orbit...and how did Frannie die and was she murdered by someone else? I always thought they should bring back a relative of Frannie, maybe a son to date Dee or Annie (instead of the dreaded Porny Brad) or grandson to date Betsy...or have someone become the Stewarts maid and its her granddaughter gaslighting Ellen. So much history there but poor Ellen was always a dud.

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14 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

Was just thinking about Ellen Lowell Stewart and the number of people close to her that died.

1. As a young woman, she lost her father Jim suddenly.

2. Then she marries Tim, the father of her child but he dies leaving her a widow.

3. Then Betty Stewart, adoptive mother of her son dies

4. Her best friend Penny's husband Jeff dies in a car crash.

5. David's housekeeper Franny dies and she is accused of murder.

6. Her stepfather Doug dies suddenly.

7. Penny's 2nd husband Neil dies

8, 9, 10.Daughter in law Liz, and stepson Paul both die and a few years later her son Dan passes away

11. She is widowed for the 2nd time when David dies.

probably a few more could be included. Ellen probably had a selection of black outfits at the ready.

 

You forgot her mother Claire. 

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On 11/30/2021 at 1:27 PM, Mitch said:

I always thought they wrote poor Ellen as a dud and Bruder could have done much better with the character..especially with her wild past.  Was she preggers and gave the baby up on screen..if she was a widow why give the kid away? Also, how did she get into David's orbit...and how did Frannie die and was she murdered by someone else? I always thought they should bring back a relative of Frannie, maybe a son to date Dee or Annie (instead of the dreaded Porny Brad) or grandson to date Betsy...or have someone become the Stewarts maid and its her granddaughter gaslighting Ellen. So much history there but poor Ellen was always a dud.

Yes, she was pregnant and gave the baby up on screen. She didn't want to give the baby (Dan) up but was pressured to by Judge Lowell because she wasn't married to the father (Tim Cole) at the time. He was married to someone else. So she gave the baby up for adoption. Tim subsequently got a divorce and married Ellen but died soon after from leukemia. It was only after Tim's death that Ellen decided to try and get her baby back. David and Betty had adopted Ellen's baby. That's how she got into David's orbit. She tried to get Dan back from David and Betty. Betty died from pneumonia and then Ellen married David. So, she married her baby's adoptive father. Franny Brennan, the Stewarts housekeeper, threatened to tell Dan that Ellen was his real mom (she was hiding that fact from Dan). So Ellen killed Franny by bashing her over the head with a paperweight. 

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3 hours ago, Bill Bauer said:

Yes, she was pregnant and gave the baby up on screen. She didn't want to give the baby (Dan) up but was pressured to by Judge Lowell because she wasn't married to the father (Tim Cole) at the time. He was married to someone else. So she gave the baby up for adoption. Tim subsequently got a divorce and married Ellen but died soon after from leukemia. It was only after Tim's death that Ellen decided to try and get her baby back. David and Betty had adopted Ellen's baby. That's how she got into David's orbit. She tried to get Dan back from David and Betty. Betty died from pneumonia and then Ellen married David. So, she married her baby'd adoptive father. Franny Brennan, the Stewarts housekeeper, threatened to tell Dan that Ellen was his real mom (she was hiding that fact from Dan). So Ellen killed Franny by bashing her over the head with a paperweight. 

Wow...slutting around with a married guy..did she even love David or was it just to get the kid..and then killing someone! She sounds worse then Lisa at her height of bitchiness!  Meaning I think I would have liked her. She could have made such an interesting character and she was just a dull frau.  I can't believe during their little annoyance with each other that Ellen didn't bring up that Lisa was a slut and Lisa could say "Well honey, I never MURDERED anyone!" and the Ellen slap her...making Kim and Bob rattle their tea cups! I know, a bit too intense for Marland and polite Oakdale. They should have at least given Ellen a wistfull air or a temper.

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2 hours ago, Mitch said:

did she even love David or was it just to get the kid.

Good point as this summary from 1965 hints at that

 Don reestablishes his on-again/off-again romance with Ellen, but Ellen is close to accepting David's wedding proposal.

David/Ellen was the biggest wedding the show had ever done so the writing must have leaned towards Ellen romancing Don b/c she felt she didn't deserve David after all she'd been through.

She and Don had always been close. This is something that could have been used in later years as Ellen comforts Don over Joyce for example and David gets jealous.

Instead David and Ellen became tentpoles. Ellen was even dropped at one point in 75.

 

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20 minutes ago, Paul Raven said:

Good point as this summary from 1965 hints at that

 Don reestablishes his on-again/off-again romance with Ellen, but Ellen is close to accepting David's wedding proposal.

David/Ellen was the biggest wedding the show had ever done so the writing must have leaned towards Ellen romancing Don b/c she felt she didn't deserve David after all she'd been through.

She and Don had always been close. This is something that could have been used in later years as Ellen comforts Don over Joyce for example and David gets jealous.

Instead David and Ellen became tentpoles. Ellen was even dropped at one point in 75.

 

When David and Ellen broke off would have been the perfect time to bring back Don. Poor Mary could have died (she was always going into a coma anyway...) and Don comes back with Teddy (they could have brought back Wagner at that time and explained she was off taking car of things after Mary kicked) and starts a romance with Ellen..causing Bob and Nancy and Chris to not be happy. Instead, they had Ellen move into a swinging middle aged ladies apt with a bunch of nobodies and date a doctor who was a nobody and disappeared.

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