13 minutes ago, Darn said:

 

Good lord young Vincent Irizzary looks like a Greek statue come to life.

 

During Billy and Vanessa's party they're playing orchestral versions of "Yesterday" and "Just The Way You Are", they sound so pretty.

 

I had no idea that there was a Lewis...sister?! Did she ever show up in the last decade? I only started watching in '99 and do not remember her.

 

 

Ah, Trish. The lost Lewis. Not only do I not think she reappeared after she left town, I don't even think she was mentioned again. Maybe when H.B. died.

17 minutes ago, Darn said:

I had no idea that there was a Lewis...sister?! Did she ever show up in the last decade? I only started watching in '99 and do not remember her.

 

Trish was the first Lewis - she was Andy Norris' (Holly's bad seed brother) battered wife. After he was locked up, she became involved with Ross in business and sometimes pleasure, and Josh, then a bad boy (basically an Andy who was not going around knocking seven bells out of women), joined her in Springfield. When Pam Long and Gail Kobe came in, they brought in Billy and HB (both of whom had been mentioned for years) and Mindy. 

 

Trish was always much more serious than the rest of the family, and Rebecca Hollen was a very understated, intelligent actress. It's very jarring to see her go from the drab, depressing style of the Marland years to the big hair and big ole fur coat look of Kobe/Long.

 

She was written out in 1985 (not sure if it was her choice or the show's). She briefly returned for HB's funeral and the last Josh/Reva wedding.

Edited June 22, 20205 yr by DRW50

Thanks @DRW50. It's pretty crazy she never came back on regular basis considering all that Billy and Josh went through. They could have used her in any capacity, she had history with Alan and Ross too.

Just now, Darn said:

Thanks @DRW50. It's pretty crazy she never came back on regular basis considering all that Billy and Josh went through. They could have used her in any capacity, she had history with Alan and Ross too.

 

I agree, but then, I still have no idea why the only time they brought back Amanda Spaulding was as a madam and plot device. They really just had no idea what made any sense - it's a miracle GL lasted those last 15 years...

1 hour ago, John said:

I had heard that Claire Labine wanted to recast Selena with Ilene Kristen but Rauch said no so Labine just wrote Selena out

Blind item in SOD at the time was that Patti was fired for weight gain. Selena had gone from sexy wrap dresses to completely covered up.  
 

Apparently, you can only get fat if you’re Kim Zimmer, Jordan Clarke, Michael O’Leary or Justin Deas. 
 

I really enjoyed Patti and Selena. I do feel that Drew could’ve been recast, which would’ve also allowed Max to return. And we could’ve met Miguel Jr if Gus was rewritten to not be her son.  She basically could’ve had her own family. Merged with the Coopers, that would’ve been interesting. 
 

Rebecca Hollen played the thankless role of Peggy Lazarus on AW, when all its new characters had bizarre names. She was Peter Love’s lawyer/lover.  After that, maybe she found another vocation.  She certainly could’ve livened up GL and been an age-appropriate love interest for any number of men like Ed, Ross (again), Roger or Fletcher. 

Trish last episode 

 

Edited June 23, 20205 yr by Soapsuds

43 minutes ago, antmunoz said:

Blind item in SOD at the time was that Patti was fired for weight gain. Selena had gone from sexy wrap dresses to completely covered up.  
 

Apparently, you can only get fat if you’re Kim Zimmer, Jordan Clarke, Michael O’Leary or Justin Deas. 
 

I really enjoyed Patti and Selena. I do feel that Drew could’ve been recast, which would’ve also allowed Max to return. And we could’ve met Miguel Jr if Gus was rewritten to not be her son.  She basically could’ve had her own family. Merged with the Coopers, that would’ve been interesting. 
 

Rebecca Hollen played the thankless role of Peggy Lazarus on AW, when all its new characters had bizarre names. She was Peter Love’s lawyer/lover.  After that, maybe she found another vocation.  She certainly could’ve livened up GL and been an age-appropriate love interest for any number of men like Ed, Ross (again), Roger or Fletcher. 

HAHAHA on the weight gain thing.. I think the problem with Patti was that she took the places of characters and actresses in her age range who were not getting story. Also..she thought she could master social media...but she went overboard..she had a fan page and people were actually sending her gifts..shen then publicly took fans on in social media...I think telling some to f*ck off..thinking she ingratiating herself with Zimmer and Newman and Rauch and it backfired.

 

I thought it would have been funny if she hooked up with Ed Bauer..she was living in the garage apt and friends with Abby..until it was dropped to move her over to Cooperville and she and Deas were intolerable together. The next Bauer matriarch is an ex whore of a mob boss!

Did any of the Jeva weddings boost GL's ratings? The question came to mind when I looked at my avatar and recalled a thread about soap ratings in the 80s and how supercouple weddings were a big pull (the supposed big ratings for Steve and Betsy's wedding on ATWT which may in fact not have been that big and Patch and Kayla's wedding on Days). I'm not some Jeva stan even though I have them on my avatar, I actually just really like the photo and the colors. I think Josh and Reva as characters and actors are great but I wonder if they had any real influence as a supercouple. 

 

This is what I found:

1989 Wedding Ratings (This is the only wedding I didn't find ratings for the week of the wedding, but I did find ratings for the week before and after. Wikipedia shows GL ranking 7th overall for the 1988/89 season. The week before and after the wedding, GL also ranked 7th. One thing I noticed for Patch and Kayla's wedding was that the ratings for Days climbed leading up to the wedding and peaked for the week of.) 

 

 

 

1999 Wedding Ratings (According to Wiki, GL averaged a 3.5 for the 98/99 season. To put it into perspective, GL had a rating between 3.9 and 4.3 from January to mid-March in 1999 with only two weeks below a 4.0. It then remained mostly in the mid-high 3's. The two weeks leading up to the wedding GL scored a 3.6 and the two weeks after scored a 3.5 and 3.8. It also scored a 4.0 the week in June where Max learns Drew isn't his sister.) 

 

2002 Wedding Ratings (According to Wikipedia, GL averaged a 3.0 for the 2001/2002 season. In early 2002, GL was scoring above or at a 3.0 until NCAA preemptions in early March brought it below a 3.0 (for the first time I believe) it rebounded to a 3.0 for two weeks after but then spent the rest of the season in the mid and high 2's. Not even the wedding helped.)

Trish was the logical and level headed peacemaker of the Lewis family.  I've heard rumors she opted to leave on her own..but who knows for sure.  Oddly I thought Long/Kobe used her effectively. 

 

@GLATWT88 Reva and Josh pre wedding actually started on the 14th of July where GL ranked #7 for the week.

 

Edited June 23, 20205 yr by Soapsuds

19 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:

@GLATWT88 Reva and Josh pre wedding actually started on the 14th of July where GL ranked #7 for the week.

 

Thank you for that info. Those were some underwhelming ratings for Jeva weddings then. 

 

Meanwhile, Danny and Michelle's 1999 Wedding scored a 4.2, GL's second highest rating that year, and highest overall ranking that year- coming in 5th in HH for the week. 

 

 

However, GL was performing much better in the earlier part of the year as I mentioned before. Nonetheless, it says something about the couple that it was able to rank 5th overall. 

Claire gives birth to Michelle. With syphilis ridden Calla.  Plus the Infinity saga. 

 

Edited June 23, 20205 yr by victoria foxton

3 hours ago, victoria foxton said:

Claire gives birth to Michelle. With syphilis ridden Calla.  Plus the Infinity saga. 

 

 

 

Thank you, Victoria! 

13 hours ago, GLATWT88 said:

Thank you for that info. Those were some underwhelming ratings for Jeva weddings then. 

 

Meanwhile, Danny and Michelle's 1999 Wedding scored a 4.2, GL's second highest rating that year, and highest overall ranking that year- coming in 5th in HH for the week. 

 

 

However, GL was performing much better in the earlier part of the year as I mentioned before. Nonetheless, it says something about the couple that it was able to rank 5th overall. 

 

Also the nursery rhyme stalker story with Holly in the lead climaxed that same week of Manny's 1st wedding in 1999